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Living By Faith is Responding to God

~ Faith is a responder to God. Once a person understands the Finality of the Cross and the Reality of the Resurrection, then a person might ask the question, how do I live day to day with Christ Jesus? What do I do? And the simple answer is you live and walk by faith. Now faith is misunderstood by a majority of people today. They equate faith to grunting and groaning for God. Or to try and live righteously, because they still are believing in living in the energy of their flesh instead of resting in Him. So how do we rest in Jesus? By faith. There’s the word faith again. Faith is always a responder to Truth. Faith is simple, one plus one equals two. So what does two plus two equal? The eleventh chapter of the book of Hebrews makes it clear what faith is and gives many examples of Responders to the Truth of the word of God. So how are you responding to Truth today? Are you resting in the finished work of Jesus at the cross? Or are you living a life in the energy of your flesh?

Faith is the beginning point and NO ending point to all understanding of ALL things. If a person cannot get the Finality of the Cross correct, and understand the Reality of the Resurrection properly, they will not grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. And God has much Truth to show us today especially in these last days. The question is, do you want to see ALL Truth? Jesus said the Holy Spirit would guide us into ALL truth. Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear? Do you have Faith?

A simple prayer of faith of a responding believer in Christ Jesus:

“Lord Jesus, you said the Holy Spirit would guide us into ALL truth with the Holy Spirit living in us. I know that the Holy Spirit lives in me when I placed faith in you and your finished work on the cross, and I ask you to show me All truth today. Help me to see past what my flesh tends to trust in and instead rest in You. I want to know what is really going on in this world today. Thank you Jesus for what you have done, for what you are doing, and for what you are about to do.”

~ “For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.””^{Romans 1:17}

~ Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. ^{John 16:13}

~ Whoever has ears, let them hear.” The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables:

“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

“‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’

But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. _{Matthew 13:9-16}

You CanNot Produce Fruit, You Can Only Bear It.

~ Caller:

“The Holy Spirit has just revealed to me within the last couple of weeks, the finality of the cross, and it’s just incredible! It is just, it is the, it’s like, the joy of my salvation doubles because I understand that he paid it all and even though I continue to sin, that is not an issue between he and I any longer, and it is just so freeing. However, I want to go beyond that now. So in the day to day relationship with the Lord, how do you, how do you, I know this is gonna sound crazy, but how do you, how do you walk with the Lord in the reality of the resurrection? Do you know what I’m saying?”

~ Bob George

“By faith that’s, that’s that’s what you walk by you see that the rest that he wants us to enter into is called the Sabbath rest where you’re resting from your works just as he did from his when he cried out from across, its finished. He wants you to rest in that that’s what you’re doing right now. See? In other words, you find that finally hit that Jesus said, it’s finished and you finally say it’s finished. And he says rest in that I finished my work. That’s why he sat down, as a chair was a prohibited piece of furniture in the temple. But when Jesus finished his work, he sat down. Why? His work was over. And so he sat down, and now he wants you to enter into that Sabbath rest, resting from your work. So now there’s nothing you can do to improve upon what I did. So I’ve done it, I said, it’s finished. Now you rest in that. And then living your life is the same thing I’m living, I’m gonna rest in the fact that Christ Jesus is alive living in me. And there’s nothing that I couldn’t do apart from him that he’s interested in at all. I see myself in that illustration that Jesus gave us a vine and branch. And I think it was one of the greatest illustrations that he gave. Because if you could talk to a branch, and you and you would say, you know, Branch, what is your responsibility in life? Both a branch said, well, to produce fruit, you’d have to then say, How are you doing? And do you mind if I try to take a bite out of this so called fruit you’re producing? Can you get a mouthful of wax. If the branch really understood who he was, he would say that my goal in life and my meaning and purpose to life comes from abiding in the life of the vine. Remember what Jesus said, I do nothing, unless the Father tells me to do it. And I say nothing, unless the Father tells me to say it and how to say it. Here was God, who put aside that prerogative, and walked as a man in order to teach you and me how to live as a man. We can’t live as God, we never are going to be God. And so he showed us how to live as a man. And he said, the way you do that said, living in total dependency upon the Father, we see you’d say the same thing to a branch that was out there grunting and groaning and trying to produce fruit, you’d say branch, you’re really pretty stupid, because you cannot produce fruit. And the only way in a world that you’re going to experience love and joy and peace and patience and kindness and goodness, is to abide in Me, the into into the life of the of the vine, and let that vine produce it in and through you, you get to bear the fruit, which is wonderful. But you cannot produce it apart from Christ, you can do nothing. That’s how you live your life. An attitude of total dependency.” ~ Bob George

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Jacob 0:57
Yeah, you know how I told you I just keep you updated on the situation with that little church, I was checking out. Yeah, if you remember that or not? Well, I had a just kind of had a real big eye opener as to the just the way that truth, how the gospel can be twisted. And, and basically what happened to me was, I was having some conversations with this pastor, because I am real guarded and careful about not wanting to get myself into a situation where I lose my freedom and Christ. And I had some really what seemed like great conversations with this pastor, and he seemed to be agreeing with everything I was saying. And when I would talk to him about the fullness of the grace of God, and how thankful I was that, you know, that Christ did it all for me, and how I can just rest in Him. And He seemed to be agreeing with everything I was saying. And he even came over to my house once and we talked for about an hour about just different issues about the gospel and the New Covenant, and tithe and we talked about all these different things. And he seemed to be agreeing with me. And then so I had not, I had only gone to his church maybe about four times. And I started really noticing a difference. total difference and what he was saying there versus what we would talk about when I wasn’t at the church. And it was like total forked tongue. And I started to feel that and I don’t know if you guys remember, but about a week ago, a lady named Julie called in. And she was she heard me talking about this church, and everything was thinking about trying it out everything. And she went with me the last Sunday that I went, which was this last Sunday. And it was like God was just showing me how, how amazing that everyone everything there was it was just like, the flesh. It wasn’t. It wasn’t at all like I thought it was. And my heart was just all my joy was ebbing away. And I was like, This is what in the world I can’t. And I couldn’t even I could hardly even believe that, that he had been deceiving me. I couldn’t believe it. And so then I left. And so he called me a bunch of times, because he saw me walk up right out of church. And I guess he was trying to find out. Herman was trying to find out what was going on. And I, I got to talk to him about the same issues all over again. And I found out, he believes you can be cut off from fellowship from God, if you sin. He doesn’t believe in the finality, the cross, he believes and tightening because he insulted my giving. He said I wasn’t giving enough. Just everything total total lie of what he said before. And he said, There’s no way he’d let me teach this stuff in that church. And he said that me even talking about the finality of the cross and the fact that I don’t have to ask God to forgive me anymore, but that I am forgiven and God, he said, those are the smallest points of Christianity, not even to be talked about. And I told him, Well, Herman, I feel that the finality of the cross, to me, is one of the most important things that God has ever shown me in my life. And it’s very important to me, and I just wanted to express my concern for listeners. And because I had only been really listening to People to People for about two years, maybe not even that long, and I was getting grounded in the grace of God. And I just wanted to warn people of the subtlety of Satan and how he can just just lie just boldface lie to you and say, Oh, I believe in grace, sure. And then just totally twist it and change it. And I was almost brought into bondage and I’m just thankful that because you are proclaiming the truth of God and it helped me know that I am free in Christ. And I was led by the Spirit and I stopped going to that church so and I would like if you guys could just to take off any kind of notes that I put about that being a place to go that because they teach the grace of God because they Don’t they don’t teach the fullness.

Bob George 5:02
Did you name the name of that church? When you when you called in?

Jacob 5:06
No, I’ve never named the name. Okay. I just, I put the name of it in the notes on an email I sent to you. Yeah.

Bob George 5:14
Well, we’ll certainly make note of that too Jacob. Because what you’re saying is so true. You, you see, the reason people lie, is their father is the author of lies. That’s what Jesus said, You lie, because your father is the liar. The originator of all lies is Satan. A person that says that the cross is secondary issue is blind to reality, and certainly blind to spirituality. The cross and the resurrection is the centrality of the totality of the gospel apart from those two, there is no gospel. So how could you say that’s a secondary issue, it is the primary issue. The reason that people think you can get in out of fellowship because of sin is because they don’t know that God has taken away your sin from the sight of God. So how could you be out of fellowship? John explains it this way, if you’re in the light as He God is in the light. The result of that is you have fellowship with one another in the blood of Jesus, his Son continually keeps on cleansing, you have all unrighteousness. So how could you ever get in darkness? How could you ever get out of fellowship when you’re in the light as God is in the light, and as a result of the light that you’re both in, you have fellowship with one another. So it’s just the fact that Jacob, that there are people out there that have either been to a lousy cemetery, seminary, excuse me, and are just passing on the lousy teaching that they’ve had there. Or people who really have never had any interest at all in trying to get to the bottom of the meaning of the word of God. So I appreciate your discernment, Jacob, and your interest in calling back so that and I’m glad you at least hooked up with the lady that called in. And maybe you guys might end up just starting a Bible study.

Jacob 7:07
We’re planning on that.

Bob George 7:11
There is nothing sacred about people called the church, a building with a cross on it. And, and a marquee out in front. The church is people, it is not a building. It is people and it’s God’s people, the true Church, the only church that God’s interested in, is born again believers. And we’re he is the head and we are his body here on this earth. And the way that we become his body here on this earth is when the moment that we accept Christ Jesus, that’s Christ in us Our only hope of glory. And then he baptizes or places us into his body. And we are now his body here on this earth. And that is what’s called the ecclesia, or the church. It’s not the building on the corner of walk and don’t walk. It’s people. And what we have done is substitute that relationship with Christ Jesus, where he calls us children of God. And we’ve substituted and said, Well, that’s nice children of God. But I want another kind of label. I want to be known as a Baptist. So I’m going to put Baptist label or charismatic or Methodist or whatever, I’m going to put that on my jar. And therefore it really doesn’t make a difference what’s inside doesn’t make any difference whether it’s Smuckers jelly, or, or Knott’s Berry Farm jelly or who’s jelly’s inside, it doesn’t matter because the label says Smuckers. And with a name like Smuckers, it’s got to be good. Well, we do the same thing. You know, with a name like Baptists because it’s got to be good. Or maybe like Presbyterians gotta be good. Nobody has a clue what’s inside the jar. It’s just worshipping at the foot of the label. I was a Presbyterian for years. What do Presbyterians believe? I didn’t have a clue, and neither had any pastor that was ever under have a clue. In fact, there was only one it was saved out of the whole game and I was involved with. And so the issue is that but it doesn’t matter. We’re Presbyterian or we’re Methodist, or we’re Baptist, and we’ve substituted that for this relationship with God. And we’ve said, yeah, that’s okay. But it’s this relationship down here with each other. It’s, it’s this, it’s this group, that’s important. I said, No, it isn’t. This group isn’t important at all, in comparison to what God is looking for, and that’s born again people. So if you went into a congregation today, and a rapture occured, you’d probably have about two thirds of it, just keep enjoying the singing. And because you have people there are professors, but not possessors of Christ. And the only way that you’re going to ever understand the meaning of the word of God is if Christ Jesus lives in you. And that’s quite frankly, I think, Jacob why so many people ignore, ignore new birth. Or is because they don’t have it. And they, therefore they cannot understand Scripture. And so to ignore the Bible, that’s what I was thinking, ignore the Bible. I never had the Bible open. I was in church all my life never had a Bible open. Why would because it wasn’t important. I couldn’t understand it, if I didn’t have it open and understand what it was saying. And so people therefore say, well, at least I can sit in church and hope that God will recognize this. That isn’t God’s Church, God’s Church are people who are truly born again, he’s the head and we’re the body. And if we just keep that in mind, why then we won’t be so disappointed when we go into a fellowship like this and see what we see. Because quite frankly, I would probably go into a fellowship with with the opposite idea that’s going to be a miracle if I hear what I know to be true. Therefore, I’m never disappointed because I didn’t expect anything out of them anyway.

Jacob 11:05
Right. One thing I was also wanting to say is that the subtlety of of it, because they were saying things that on the on the surface, she would say, hey, they’ve got a handle on truth. They were quoting John 10:10. And they were talking about that, but they were relating it back to just works. And I was like, it’s amazing how they can be quoting the Scripture about life, and be tying that in to work. And that’s, that’s the main thing I noticed when I was there. I was, see, when I listen to your ministry, I get focused upon Christ, and Him alone. And when I was there, I was getting focused back on me. And that’s what I noticed, even though they would talk about Jesus, it would be like, serving Jesus. Yeah, doing things for Jesus. And the other thing I wanted to say too, is that I’m thankful that I’m very thankful that I heard you guys teaching about First John one, nine, because that gave me so much peace of my heart, when I was able to settle the finality, the cross that I don’t, you know, I can agree with God and thank Him by FAITH that he took my sins away. But I don’t have to grovel, I don’t have to feel guilty. I can rejoice in my new relationship with Christ because of what he did for me at the cross. And see he, he taught, he teaches that you have eternal life, and you can’t lose it. But then he’ll go right around and say, but this life can be disturbed because you can, you can sin, and you’re out of fellowship. And he said, here’s the thing that doesn’t make sense at all. If you carry this through, he says, You can sin. And sometimes you sin and you don’t even know it. And so according to his teaching, if you sin, and you’re out of fellowship, one of these days, you sin and you don’t know it, then you can go your whole Christian life and be out of fellowship with God and not even know it. And that doesn’t make any sense. Yeah, you know.

Bob George 13:05
Well, again, tell him to look up in the Scripture and find where being in in and out of fellowships in the Bible. So I did

Jacob 13:12
Bob, I was able to challenge him with Scripture. And because of some of the things you were talking about, I was able to go away, loving Him, speaking the truth of the New Covenant to him. And usually when I squabble with people, I don’t, I don’t always feel love. I feel conflicted. But I felt because I was proclaiming truth. I felt like I had done him a favor, by proclaiming the fullness of Christ. He even asked me where the scriptures were. And I was showing him in Hebrews because I have that scriptural journey book that you gave me good. I was pointing them out to him, and there was dead silence for a while. I said, you know what’s happening? When people are sitting there, and they’re saying, God, please forgive me, please forgive me, because that’s what I told him was so disturbing, one of the things that I couldn’t handle and he said, I said, the Bible says, not even knowing it, but ignorantly what they’re doing is they’re trampling that sacrifice. They’re making a mockery out of the cross in what Jesus did for them because, and he says, Well, they do it because they like it. It makes them feel good. They want to do it. I said, if you taught them the truth, why would they want to do that? Yeah. We’re not gonna teach that here.

Bob George 14:16
Yeah. Well, you never know things that Jacob if you might have sown some seeds there that will come to fruition someday. So you keep praying for him. And he sounds like you got a lot of information into his head. And, you know, you never know what will happen there. But don’t give up because a person like that may not agree with you, and their pride wouldn’t enable them to do so. But they still know that what they believe is not working, and therefore they may go back and seek out that information and come to truth. Well, Jacob, we appreciate your call brother and you call anytime and God bless you pal. Okay, guys, have a good day. Thanks to Jacob. Bye bye now. Bye.

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JESUS DIED…
1. For all (1st Timothy 2:6; Isaiah 53:6).
2. For every man (Hebrews 2:9).
3. For the world (John 3:16).
4. For the sins of the whole world (1st John 2:2).
5. For the ungodly (Romans 5:6).
6. For false teachers (2nd Peter 2:1).
7. For many (Matthew 20:28).

For Me:

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. ^{Galatians 2:20}

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