Radio Broadcast Monday 12/09/2024

Classic Christianity – Book of Romans P28 (12-09-24)

Serve God in the Spirit, Not by The Law

~ “Therefore, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. For when we lived according to the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, bearing fruit for death. But now, having died to what bound us, we have been released from the law, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.” Romans 7:5-6

When a person becomes a child of God, through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, we are to serve God in a new way, by His Spirit living in us, guiding us in ALL Truth, and abiding in Him by Faith. And faith is responding properly to Truth. Faith is drawing proper conclusions to the Truth that has been revealed to us. And God has much to reveal to each of us today, because there are so many lies that we all have fallen for. He is the One that has to renew our minds. And when you are being taught directly by the Holy Spirit, you are being taught by God Himself. Scripture tells us that for all those in Christ Jesus, we have the mind of Christ living in us. So depend on Him and Him alone for the teaching of truth. Man can teach you what the word of God says, but it must be taught by the Holy Spirit to teach a person what the word of God means.

So today, when you hear the voice of God speaking directly to you, do not discount what He is saying to you. Ask Him to give you wisdom in understanding ALL Truth, because He said He would indeed do that. And lean not on your own understanding of anything today. Don’t run to Man to try and figure out what the word of God is saying. Ask God Himself to teach you the meaning of things. And He will give you a great abundance of wisdom, with everything in the word of God, and the world that we live in today to understand ALL things.

Luke 18:18,19
18 And a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, having done what, will I inherit eternal life?”
19 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good, except God alone.

~ “Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.” 1 John 5:12

~ Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; the one believing in Me, even if he should die, he will live. And everyone living and believing in Me shall never die, to the age. Do you believe this?” John 11:25,26

~ Do you not know, brothers (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives? For instance, a married woman is bound by law to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she is joined to another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

Therefore, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. For when we lived according to the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, bearing fruit for death. But now, having died to what bound us, we have been released from the law, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

What then shall we say? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed, I would not have been mindful of sin if not for the law. For I would not have been aware of coveting if the law had not said, “Do not covet.” But sin, seizing its opportunity through the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. So I discovered that the very commandment that was meant to bring life actually brought death. For sin, seizing its opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through the commandment put me to death.

So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous, and good.

Did that which is good, then, become death to me? Certainly not! But in order that sin might be exposed as sin, it produced death in me through what was good, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.

We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do, I do not do. But what I hate, I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I admit that the law is good. In that case, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh; for I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do. Instead, I keep on doing the evil I do not want to do. And if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

So this is the principle I have discovered: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law. But I see another law at work in my body, warring against the law of my mind and holding me captive to the law of sin that dwells within me.

What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, with my mind I serve the law of God, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin. Romans 7:1-25

Pray to God:

Do you really want to know the WHOLE Truth of what is going on today?

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you.” Matthew 7:7

Lord Jesus, teach me the truth of the world today and give me the wisdom to know the truth and identify the lies of the devil. Thank you God.”

~ “And so this kind of a message had to be gotten across to people who are totally legalistic, totally trying to for, to to to obey all the form of the law and and he got underneath their skin, as we were talking about with that law that you can’t spit on the day that He healed the blind man. What do you do he spit? Where’d he spit? On a rock? No, on the ground. And what’d he do when he spit? He didn’t even wait for the spit to make mud. He got down, made it himself and put it on the blind man’s eyes, and said, Go. Wash yourself. Now, do you think he needed to do that to heal that man? Why did he do it? To drive the Pharisees nuts? You could hear his disciples saying, Jesus, for goodness sakes, wait till tomorrow to heal this guy. We’re in enough trouble. Said, No, I’m going to show the hypocrisy. Because did the Pharisees care that this man was blind and could now see? Care less. All they could care about is you spit on the Sabbath. And so what they want to do, kill him. It’s okay to kill on the Sabbath, just don’t spit if you’re doing it. That’s the hypocrisy of the law. And so all through this book of Romans, especially as we’ve been teaching through 5, 6, 7, and 8, you’re going to see the Apostle Paul hammering on the fact that you are no longer under the law, but you’re under the grace of God, the law has done its purpose. The purpose of the law was to lead us to Christ. And in verse 20, in chapter five, it says the law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where it is increased, Grace increased all the more, so that just as Sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus, Christ, our Lord, You cannot out sin the grace of God. The grace of God took over where the law failed. Paul said, there’s nothing wrong with the law, but when it flows through me, it kills me. Now, there’s a problem. Nothing wrong with the law, but I can’t keep it.

Under the law we’ve watered this down as well. You’ve heard pastors and so have I talk about, oh, God’s going to take you to the woodshed, or God’s going to paddle you, or God’s going to punish you for this, or God’s going to get you for this, folks, I want to tell you something with God the wages of sin is death, period. It’s not a woodshed, it’s not a paddling. It’s not I’m going to take your income away from you. I’m not going to make you sick. It’s death. The wages of sin is death, and as long as you and I are under that death penalty, we are to be pitied of all people, because if you don’t know what’s going to happen to you when you die, you’re not prepared to live. And so he was saying that the law was added so that the trespass might increase, so that you the your sins get worse, and in so doing, you’re prepared for the good news of the cross. In verse 14 of chapter six, it says, For sin shall not be your master. Why? Because you’re not under the law, but you’re under grace. What does that mean? When you’re under the law, sin is your master. All you have to do to tell a child, get a child to not do what you tell him to is to tell him to do something. You tell a child, don’t touch that fire and his little fingers headed over there, and he’s looking at you and laughing at you the whole time. All you have to do to tell a person is just put a sign up to a fence. Don’t look in, and you’ll draw a line.” ~ Bob George

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Let’s turn back to chapter seven, and we were giving the illustration, or the Bible gave the illustration about the law of marriage, and we laughingly said, so it talks about the fact that if your husband dies, she’s released from the law. So if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she’s called an adulteress, but if her husband dies, she’s released from that law, and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man. So I said, Don’t divorce your husband. Just kill him, and you’ll be.

The issue here, my friends, is this, the apostle Paul is setting down a doctrine that absolutely went up against the entire teaching of the Hebrew world at that time, and that was the law they lived by the law of Moses. They tried to follow the law of Moses. They added to the law of Moses. The law was the centrality of their entire being. To this very day in Orthodoxy. That is true. They are trying to be law keepers. You have sometimes, and you will still see that in Israel, of people, where they’ll walk with blinders on, with their head down to the ground, so that they would not look up and possibly lust. You had the laws that we said that you could not spit on the ground on the Sabbath, because if you spit on the ground, it made mud, and that would be constituted as law. So you could spin on a rock, but you can’t spit on the ground. It was in that type of teaching that Jesus entered into the Hebrew world and said, Guys, you’ve heard what the law says, but you don’t know what it means. The law says, Do not commit adultery. But I’m telling you, if you look at a woman with lust in your heart, you’ve already committed adultery, and there’s nobody that hadn’t done that, which shows you you’re dead. The purpose of the law was to show us our sinfulness, so that we would turn to Christ for salvation. Now, like everything else that man does, we take and pervert the meaning of something, and we use the law as a means of obtaining righteousness. Paul said, that is not the purpose of the law. I did. God didn’t give the law to you as a means of righteousness. He gave the Law to you to show you you can’t keep it. Those standards are God’s. They’re not ours. And so the entire teaching of the Apostle Paul is going up against everything that the Hebrews ever believed in, and it was not popular, and that is why the Apostle Paul’s life was in jeopardy every single day of his life. That’s why the apostles got all died by the hand of legalists, because they were going up against the teaching of Moses, and Jesus made statements to the leadership. As you say you believe in Moses, but you don’t believe in Moses because Moses wrote about me, and if you believed Moses, you would believe me. He wrote about me. And so he, in essence, was going up against everything that they believed in, and the only thing that they could retaliate on is to try to wipe him out and kill him, because you couldn’t argue with what he was saying. He was getting underneath the skin of people and saying, This is what the law says. But let me tell you what it means. And that’s why he said the law says, you’ve heard how the law says don’t murder, but I say if you’re angry at somebody, it’s the same as murder. Why? Because if you’re angry at somebody, you’re capable of murder. And he’s saying, I look God looks under the skin to where we live, not on the outward, but on the inward. God looks on the heart. Man looks on the outside.

That’s why I’ve said before in regard to prayer that we keep talking about whether we pray in English, or whether we play in Spanish, or whether we pray in tongues, God isn’t listening to what you’re saying anyway. He’s too smart to listen to what you say. He’s listening to your heart. He knows full well that we are capable, which we do most of the time, of what we’re saying is not really what’s going on underneath the skin, don’t we? You come here. You say, How you doing? I’m doing great, doing great, but your guts are hanging out. But we say I’m doing great, and that’s the hypocrisy that we live in, and God knows this, and that’s why he says, I’m not listening to what you’re saying. So it doesn’t make a difference whether you’re babbling in English or German or French or whatever you’re babbling in, or tongues or the language of men or angels, he said, I’m not listening to you anyway. I’m listening to your heart. God knows our hearts, and you can’t con him with your words. So he’s listening to our hearts.

And so this kind of a message had to be gotten across to people who are totally legalistic, totally trying to for, to to to obey all the form of the law and and he got underneath their skin, as we were talking about with that law that you can’t spit on the day that He healed the blind man. What do you do he spit? Where’d he spit? On a rock? No, on the ground. And what’d he do when he spit? He didn’t even wait for the spit to make mud. He got down, made it himself and put it on the blind man’s eyes, and said, Go. Wash yourself. Now, do you think he needed to do that to heal that man? Why did he do it? To drive the Pharisees nuts? You could hear his disciples saying, Jesus, for goodness sakes, wait till tomorrow to heal this guy. We’re in enough trouble. Said, No, I’m going to show the hypocrisy. Because did the Pharisees care that this man was blind and could now see? Care less. All they could care about is you spit on the Sabbath. And so what they want to do, kill him. It’s okay to kill on the Sabbath, just don’t spit if you’re doing it. That’s the hypocrisy of the law. And so all through this book of Romans, especially as we’ve been teaching through 5, 6, 7, and 8, you’re going to see the Apostle Paul hammering on the fact that you are no longer under the law, but you’re under the grace of God, the law has done its purpose. The purpose of the law was to lead us to Christ. And in verse 20, in chapter five, it says the law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where it is increased, Grace increased all the more, so that just as Sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus, Christ, our Lord, You cannot out sin the grace of God. The grace of God took over where the law failed. Paul said, there’s nothing wrong with the law, but when it flows through me, it kills me. Now, there’s a problem. Nothing wrong with the law, but I can’t keep it.

Under the law we’ve watered this down as well. You’ve heard pastors and so have I talk about, oh, God’s going to take you to the woodshed, or God’s going to paddle you, or God’s going to punish you for this, or God’s going to get you for this, folks, I want to tell you something with God the wages of sin is death, period. It’s not a woodshed, it’s not a paddling. It’s not I’m going to take your income away from you. I’m not going to make you sick. It’s death. The wages of sin is death, and as long as you and I are under that death penalty, we are to be pitied of all people, because if you don’t know what’s going to happen to you when you die, you’re not prepared to live. And so he was saying that the law was added so that the trespass might increase, so that you the your sins get worse, and in so doing, you’re prepared for the good news of the cross. In verse 14 of chapter six, it says, For sin shall not be your master. Why? Because you’re not under the law, but you’re under grace. What does that mean? When you’re under the law, sin is your master. All you have to do to tell a child, get a child to not do what you tell him to is to tell him to do something. You tell a child, don’t touch that fire and his little fingers headed over there, and he’s looking at you and laughing at you the whole time. All you have to do to tell a person is just put a sign up to a fence. Don’t look in, and you’ll draw a line.

The power of sin is in the law, and you are under the power of sin, and you’re being mastered by sin under the law. Again, folks, there’s nothing wrong with the law, but when it flows through us, it kills us. And that’s what Paul’s trying to get across to us is, guys, there’s another way of life, and it’s not the law that kills you, it’s the Spirit of God that gives life to you. And until you die to the law, you’ll never come alive to the grace of God. And there are people probably still sitting in this room are trying to walk down two sides of the street at the same time under law and grace. And you have people you say, well, you’re going to go to heaven. Oh, I hope so you’re still under the law. If you hope so, you’re still under the Law. Because what you’re saying was, I hope I can be good enough, and God says you’re never going to be good enough to inherit eternal life, you’ve got to die to what killed you. Now that’s exactly what this marriage deal was saying. You’re born into this world married to the law, but the law dies. That’s what baptism is a picture of. You’re standing there, you’re dunked into the water. Water is an instrument of death. You’re raised to walk in the newness of life. Where do you leave the law? In the water dead in order to walk in the newness of life under the grace of God, led by grace, led by the Spirit of God, who lives in us. He didn’t leave us empty. And that’s what a lot of people say, Well, you got need tracks to run on. You’re not a train. You don’t need tracks to run on. You’ve got the Spirit of God living in you to guide you into what? All truth, all truth. And what does truth do for you? It sets you free. It sets you free from the error that binds you. Because if truth sets you free, error is what binds you. And so you have to be set free from the law of sin and death in order to walk in the newness of life in Christ, Jesus. And so he’s saying at just in this marriage deal, you die to this partner so that you’re free to marry another Christ, Jesus, your Lord, and to walk with Him forever, eternally in His presence.

Now let’s go down to verse seven. Chapter Seven. What shall we say? Paul says, is the law there sin? Now, you see, we’ve got a number of questions asked here. And as I said before, between chapter five and chapter eight is six and seven. It’s a parenthesis. It’s where Paul pauses from what he declared in chapter five and is going to declare in chapter eight. He pauses to answer these questions. What shall we say then, if, if you can’t out sin the grace of God. Should we go on sinning so that grace may increase? We dealt with that in the same way he talked about, well, What then shall we sin because we’re not under the law but under grace? When he says, sin shall not be your master because you’re not under the law but under grace, well then should we sin because we’re not under the law? And now he’s going to say down in verse seven, what shall we say, then? Is the law of sin? Are you saying, then the law of sin? He said, No, indeed, I would not have known what sin was except through the law. Now here again, what’s the purpose of the law? It was added so at the trespass by increase and to show you your sinfulness.

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So he said, I wouldn’t have known what sin was, except through the law. Is the law still in effect for a lost person? Absolutely. What is the purpose of the law? To show you your sinfulness, so that you do what? Turn to Christ as your Lord. So until you turn to Christ as your Lord, you’re still what? Under the law. You’re still under the law of sin and death, are you not until you choose life. And folks, that’s the whole issue of salvation. Is life? So he said, Shall Is the law sin? Certainly not. Indeed, I would have known what sin was except through the law, For I would not have known what coveting was if the law had not said, Don’t covet, it’s strange that Paul uses that one of the commandments, don’t covet, it’s the one No one talks about. The Catholics did a survey a number of years ago about the most talked about sin in the 10 Commandments, coveting was never mentioned one time in the entire world on confession day, never mentioned. Why? Well, you can’t see that that’s under the skin. That’s stuff we do that no one knows about. Paul uses coveting that gets us all but sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, sin seized an opportunity afforded by the law produced every kind of coveting desire for apart from the law. Sin is what dead apart from the law. Sin is dead. Once he said I was alive apart from the law. And what I think is talking about there is the fact that prior to the law being. Sin literally taught to me I was free from that, but when the Commandment came, when I learned the law, sin sprang to life and I died. Found out I was dead. I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life. I thought that obeying the commandment was going to bring me life, but it actually brought death. For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment or the law, it deceived me, and though the commandment and through the commandment, it put me to death. I finally understood this is something I cannot do. I finally comprehend that the wages of sin is death, and I finally comprehended that, therefore I am dead, and so is everybody else, because all have sinned and all have fallen short of the glory of God. Is that true or not?

So then the law is holy and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. So where’s the problem? If the law is good, where’s the problem? Us. God forbid, not us. Yes, us. Sin. Seizing that opportunity that was afforded by the commandment brought death to me. I understood my death. Well in verse 13, well, did that which is good? Then, in other words, the law become death to me? No, he said, by no means, but in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me. It didn’t become death. It produced death. It showed me, I’m dead. It wasn’t that I became dead when I saw the commandment, it showed me my death. It produced the death in me through what was good, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful, so that through the commandment of God, you and I see that I am perfectly sinful. There is no man that will ever be declared righteous in the sight of God, through what? Obedience to the law. For it’s through the law that we become conscious of sin.

Now, folks, we’re going to see a very interesting passage, and we’re going to see in this passage the problem with the Christian life today, and that is people going out and trying to live the Christian life in the energy of the flesh. What you’re going to see here, and if you have your Bibles, I would suggest that you mark these things as you go along, because you’re going to see, I put circles around the eyes and to myself and to mes and the I’s. And you’re going to see an entire passage of circles. There’s a fact 51 of them in these small, short passage.

So he’s saying, we know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. Now, the first time I read these passages, I thought somebody had been peeking on me, because this was my life. And folks people say, well, was Paul lost or was he under the law? It doesn’t make any difference. If he’s lost, he’s under the law, and if he’s saved, and put yourself under the law. This is your lifestyle. It doesn’t make any difference whether you’re lost under the law or saved, just as saved as can be. But you kept yourself under the law through false teaching, or whatever it might be. Your pastors told you you’re still under the Law, and you got to keep the Big 10. And people will say, Now, Bob this, wait a minute. We’re not under the ceremony law, but we’re under the 10 Commandments. No, you’re not. You’re not under any of you don’t go to Mount Sinai period once you’re saved. So this is a lifestyle of a person either lost under the law or saved under the law. Here’s your lifestyle. And many of you know full well what I’m going to say before I say it, because you’ve lived it. I don’t understand what I do two I’s for what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do, and if I do what I do not want to do, I agree the law is good, but as it is, it’s no longer now use it twice. I myself who do it, but it’s sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me that is in my sinful nature, for I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do. No the evil I do not want to do this. I keep on doing. Now, if I do. I do not want to do it’s no longer I who do it, but it’s sin living in me that does it. Almost sounds like a cop out, doesn’t it? Don’t blame me. It’s sin. Well, if you want to blame somebody, blame what he did, because he said it’s sin living in me, and sin is being fanned by who? Satan using what to fan it? The law. I find this law at work. I when I want to do good, evil is right there with me. How many of you are relating to this? Is anyone in there saying, gee, wonder what he’s talking about. For in my inner being, I delight in God’s law. I understand it’s right. Understand just what he said. I understand it’s good and holy. But I see another law, a law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin that is at work within my members.

Folks, where is the war waged? In your what? Mind. As a man thinks so is he? Now what is one of the ways that Satan deceives us? He tries to say, no, no, no, it’s in your feelings. And so that’s why we talk about our feelings all the time. How do you feel about this? And I talk, well, I feel and I feel, and I feel and I feel, and God says, Look, I designed you in such a way whereby your emotions are going to predictably respond to whatever you are thinking. You’re designed that way. So when you’re thinking about the things you’ve done in the past, your emotions don’t know whether that is happening, or whether that has happened, or whether you think it’s going to happen, they are just predictably responding to what you are putting in your mind. So when you’re sitting around thinking and beating yourself up over all the bad things you’ve done in the past or just yesterday or today, and you’re beating yourself up over those things, your emotions do not know whether that is going on right now or whether you just think they’re going on. Do they? They don’t know. Emotions are dumb. They only respond to what you’re thinking. Now, if it isn’t bad enough that we’re beating ourselves up with what happened in the past and digging up everything that’s happened in the past, either of yourself or others. You can go either way. That’s never good enough for us. We have to start thinking about what’s going to happen tomorrow, right?

And it’s kind of like the husband that comes home and is coming home, and he comes home late, and while he’s trying to get there, why the wife’s got the meal cooked, and she’s waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and she’s getting mad and madder and madder, and she starts thinking, why isn’t he there? Wonder where he is. He’s doing that to hurt me. If he was thinking about me, he would be here on time, and by the time the poor guy walks in the door at night, he’s been caught in traffic, she is irate, not only irate because what she’s been thinking in the past, but she’s also gone forward, and I’ll bet the slob is going to be late tomorrow too. As a matter of fact, if I live with him another 20 years, he’ll be late every day, and now you got about 90 mads working. You got the past working. You got the future working. And he comes in and, brother, he gets it, and he sitting back, said, what’s wrong? What do you mean? What’s wrong? You’ve been late for 50 years. Is that right or wrong? Is that the way things happen now? You see, when I’m thinking about what’s happened in the past, my emotions, there’s only one time I can feel something that’s right now. I can’t feel yesterday, I can’t feel tomorrow. I can only feel something right now, but I can think something yesterday and I can think something tomorrow. Can’t I? I can create things with my mind. I can create songs with my mind. I can create poetry. I can create literature with my mind. And my emotions are going to predictably respond to whatever I’m thinking. We’re built that way. We’re made that way. And so what God is saying to us is to live a day at a time. Now, if he was saying that in regard to the physical aspect, that would be a pretty dumb thing to say, because that’s the only time I can live is right now. But he was saying, in your mind, Bob, live a day at a time. You cannot be sitting around thinking about what’s going to happen or has happened in the past, because your emotions are going to respond as if it’s going on right now, Amy can share her testimony about her life back in Russia, and she will cry just as if it’s going on. Why? Because your emotions don’t know whether it’s going on, or you’re thinking it’s going on, or it has gone on. You’re dragging back a past event that is sad and your emotions are predictably responding to them. Are we together? Now yesterday, He said, Forget yesterday. There’s not a thing in the world you can do about yesterday. There isn’t a thing in the world that you can do about what you have done or haven’t done yesterday. It’s done, isn’t it? It’s over, isn’t it? It’s past, it’s history. But as long as you insist upon thinking about it, it’s present, is it not? And so the way that you can keep your feelings from feeling something that’s happened bad is to quit thinking about it. Now. How do you do that? You change your thoughts onto the things of God. Can you learn to thank God for all things? Because I want to tell you, folks, if you’re going to grow in grace and grow in love, you’re going to have to grow through trials and tribulation. I do not know any other way to grow, do you, except through trials and tribulation. You’re not going to grow in good times. You’re going to grow in the tough times. That’s when you draw near to God. That’s why a lot of people who have gone through terrific illnesses say if I had it to do all over again, I would do it all over again because of how close I’ve drawn to Jesus in the midst of the trial and tribulation.

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