Call-In Classic Christianity Radio – Bob George P568 (09-04-20)
Synopsis
So many people call in with questions they want answers to. Some wonder how we are meant to live the Christian life. Others wonder about end time events, like what has happened to Damasus. And in our world today, the end of the age certainly seems to be speedily coming toward the end. Time seems so short, like the rapture could occur within ten years. There are so many signs we see today, like Damascus being a heap of ruins, as prophesied by Isaiah.
But as curious as many people are toward end time events, the nagging questions people have about the meaning and purpose of life are still the same. It seems error seems to spread like wildfire and can never be quenched from being spread to the naive and those lacking discernment. The same errors are being propagated from generation to generation, from denominational persuasions of men and from the world. You still keep hearing the same questions. Is tithing for today? Why do pastors teach tithing? What is this strange teaching I hear about healing in the atonement? How can anyone find out what is true?
It is so important to get in God’s word. For then we know what Jesus said concerning the end times that are vitally important for us to know. Of first importance, he said, is to let no man deceive you. How do you do that? You come to know what God has said by reading His word and, but of greater importance, while doing so, you ask Him to reveal to you the meaning of His word. That is why in the transcription of the audio, I have provided so much scriptures so you can test and see if what Bob says is so.
Bob spent a significant amount of time speaking with Debbie about how we cannot live the Christian life. We cannot live it in the energy of the flesh. We are not designed that way, and we are also spiritually dead in Adam. We are designed to be living in a vital relationship with the living God, but you cannot do that if you do not have the Spirit of God living in you. You receive the resurrected life of Christ Jesus by faith. You first recognize you are dead to God. Then you understand that Jesus already took away all your sins from the eyes of God. He did this in order for His life to be given to you so He can live His life in you and through you.
So you believe what God accomplished for you by way of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ Jesus, and receive new life in Him, who is God. So you come to Christ by faith and the Spirit of God comes to indwell you forever. You live by that same faith. You trust Him and allow Him to live His life in you and through you. That is what Jesus explains to us in the parable of the vine and the branches. Take the time to listen to the audio, as Bob delves deeply into this subject, and ponder over the scriptures provided in the transcript.
Sometimes you read scriptures and it’s meaning is not quite clear to you. But as you study the scriptures in context you begin to get a better understanding. But even then, if you have not read through the entire bible in its entirety, and especially the epistles of Paul and Hebrews, you do not have the foundation or framework at which to grasp truth. But as you continue with a steady diet of reading through all the epistles, relying on the Holy Spirit, who lives in you, to teach you, you get a panoramic view of important doctrinal truth, such as the difference between law and grace, and the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, and of what biblical repentance and sin really is from God’s viewpoint.
It takes time to grow and learn. It is so helpful to understand certain passages of scripture, such as what Jesus meant when he said, “The world’s sin is unbelief in me.”, “Anything that does not come from faith is sin.”, “The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.”, and “Apart from me you can do nothing.” When you understand from Hebrews that the Old Covenant system of sacrificing bulls and goats to atone for sin is set aside for a New Covenant of grace in Christ Jesus, that started after the death of Christ, that opens up so much understanding for you. From this framework, you can so much readily spot error when you hear error.
So listen again to Bob, as he explains so many of these concepts from scripture. Again, scriptures have been provided. Go back and read the scriptures written down here in the transcript and read them in the context of the entire chapters and books they are in. You will be amazed at what the Lord will reveal to you.
Transcript
Debbie from Glendale, CA
Debbie: I am a little confused. God never intended us to live the Christian life. He simply asked us to live by faith, to trust Him to live His life through us.
Bob: Yes.
Debbie: Okay. It came to me in a dream last night that none of the twelve disciples invited Jesus Christ in them, and they were not born again.
Bob: Nobody was born again as we are born again today, Debbie, until the day of Pentecost, when the Spirit of God came to take up residence in the life of believers. The way that you are born again today is by receiving the Holy Spirit into your heart, or Christ Jesus into your heart as your Lord and Savior. That is the result of putting faith in the finished work of Jesus in his death, burial and resurrection. The meaning of the resurrection is that you and I are born dead, spiritually, separated from God, and God restored in us what was lost in Adam, that being the Spirit of God living in us. Christ now indwells us.
1 Corinthians 15:22
22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
Colossians 1:27
27 To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Bob: Christ in you is your hope of glory. The Spirit of God now lives in you. Why does He live in you? To live His life through you. There is nothing in the flesh that can live the Christian life. We can try but we will become a miserable failure.
Romans 7:18
18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
Bob: That happens to any of us who try to live the Christian life in the flesh. That is a failure. You cannot live the Christian life in the energy of the flesh. Christ is the one who gave you life and He is the one going to live His life in you and through you.
Romans 3:20
20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Philippians 3:3
3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh
Galatians 2:20
20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Bob: Just as Jesus walked this earth, and he is God, and never anything less than God, but he humbled himself and put aside his prerogative to be the dynamic of his own action and the cause of his own effect.
Philippians 2:7-8
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death –
even death on a cross!
John 12:49
49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
John 14:10
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
John 5:19
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
Bob: Jesus said, “I do nothing unless the Father tells me to do it. I say nothing unless the Father tells me to do it.” Doing it and saying it is all you can do as a human being. Jesus says, “I take no initiative on my own to do anything.” So who lives the Christian life in and through Jesus? The Father. Because he does not do anything unless the Father tells him to do it. So he tells us to do likewise.
1 John 2:6
6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.
Bob: As people, we cannot live in the energy of the flesh, although we try to. We try mightily to live in the energy of our flesh. We are like a storm without rain. We become like a total chicken with their head cut off. We lost contact with the head. We flap around splatting blood all over the place. But we really do not do much for the kingdom. We have to get out of the way and realize there is the living Christ living inside of you and me who is saying to us to get out of the way and let Him get into action. Jesus says to us, “I will take the initiative and tell you how to live your life.” So we too live in dependency upon Christ Jesus to live His life in and through us. I do not want to take the initiative to do something. I want Him to take the initiative. When He does, He will put those things in our hearts and move out on them, in total dependency on what Christ Jesus is saying to us.
John 15:1-5
1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
Debbie: The disciples were still living after the Holy Spirit came upon them. And, there is nothing about the disciples receiving Christ in them.
Bob: Well, every one of them? Remember when He says to them to receive the Holy Spirit and that was not on that day, but on the day of Pentecost. That is the day the Holy Spirit came to bring Christ into our hearts.
This is what Jesus promised his disciples concerning the promise of the Holy Spirit. That will happen on the day of Pentecost.
Luke 24:44-49
44 Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.” 45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, Christ would suffer and rise, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And you are witnesses of these things. 49 Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.”
This is what happened on the day of Pentecost.
Acts 2:32-33
32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
Bob: How we enter into that relationship by faith or what we say is pretty irrelevant. We cannot quibble over words. The issue is when you put your faith, true faith in the finished work of Christ Jesus, you are born again. When you are, you are indwelt by the Spirit of God. The apostle Paul, he wrote “Christ in you is your hope of glory.” How did Christ get to live in you? He was standing at the door of our hearts and knocking and we asked Him in.
Ephesians 1:13
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit
Revelation 3:20
20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me
Bob: There is the opening of the door where we say, “Lord Jesus, my heart is yours and you come in and live your life inside of me.” What you say is irrelevant.
Debbie: Thank you very much.
Bob: You are sure welcome. Thank you for your call.
Carol from Detroit, MI
Carol: Praise the Lord for your message. I started listening to you back in 1988 when you first came into Detroit the first time.
Bob: Yes. We are glad to be back there, Carol.
Carol: I am glad you are back.
Carol: I agree with your teaching on 1 John 1:9 completely, but I was wondering if you go over to 1 John 3:9 and really also verses 4 – 6, it seems like that would negate the church teaching. The church teaches 1 John 1:9 is a requirement of church. I wonder if you could speak on that, especially where it says “the one born of God does not sin because his seed remains in him and he cannot sin because he is born of God.”
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
1 John 3:9
9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
Bob: Carol, what you are dealing with there is what is sin. We always look at sin as the nasty nine, the dirty dozen and the terrible twelve. What does the bible call sin?
Romans 14:23
everything that does not come from faith is sin.
John 16:9
9 The world’s sin is unbelief in me;
Bob: How did Jesus identify as the world’s sins? That which is not of faith. The world’s sin is unbelief or lack of faith in Jesus. What is it, that without, it is impossible to please God? Faith.
Hebrews 11:6
6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Bob: So when you are looking at sin in John, you are dealing with sin, the sin of unbelief.
1 John 3:5
5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
Bob: There is no unbelief. There is a difference between sins taken away and unbelief. The one who lives in Him does not keep on sinning. Why not? Because you are walking in the Spirit. Remember what Paul said.
Galatians 5:16-18
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Bob: Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh. In other words, you will not be sinning. Why? Because you are walking in the Spirit. Now, if I am not walking in the Spirit, I will be fulfilling the desires of the flesh. So all it is saying is that when you are walking in Him, and there is no sin in Him, and whoever lives in Him will not keep on sinning, or keep on in unbelief. When you are dealing with these things, that no one who is born of God will continue to sin, the one sin Jesus talked about is unbelief.
Bob: If you are walking in Christ Jesus, and you are in Christ Jesus, there is no way you can continue to walk in unbelief. You are a believer. You cannot go on sinning. You cannot go on in your state of unbelief, which is the root of all sins, the sin of unbelief. You cannot continue doing that. Why? Because God’s Spirit lives in you. If you are born again and the Spirit of truth lives in you, you cannot continue to live in error. The Spirit of God is not going to let you do that.
Philippians 2:13
13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
John 16:12-13
12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes [day of Pentecost], he will guide you into all the truth.
Bob: If you are continuing on in error and refusing to let go of error, the bible could be saying that it is because you are lost. You may be learning how to verbalize all the notes, so to speak, and duplicate all of the actions. There is a difference between that and having a true vital relationship with the living Christ. You cannot live in unbelief once you have been indwelt by the living Christ. That is why John says.
1 John 2:19-20
19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
Bob: They went out from amongst us because they were not a part of us. There are people who will verbalize and look like one of us and then they walk away and act like they never knew Jesus and actually claim they never did. Why? They were never a part of us. Were they saved and got lost again? No. They were never saved.
Carol: You cannot be an unbelieving believer. Right?
Bob: No. There you go. Good way of putting it.
1 John 1:9
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Carol: Now, on 1 John 1:9, the last part of the verse says to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If you are unrighteous, how can you be saved? Aren’t righteousness and being saved the same thing?
Bob: Yes. We were born in unrighteousness and not in righteousness. That is what Jesus had to do, to cleanse us from what we were, unrighteous. That is when we were cleansed of all our unrighteousness. How come? For he then indwelt us with His righteousness. I do not stand in my righteousness. I stand in His.
Carol: If I had to be cleansed of unrighteousness again, it would mean I would have lost my salvation and I am out of fellowship?
1 Corinthians 1:30
30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God – that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
Bob: You have already been cleansed of unrighteousness and indwelt with His righteousness. Before you were born again, you only had one place to stand in, your unrighteousness. He had to cleanse you of all your unrighteousness in order to indwell you with His righteousness.
2 Corinthians 5:21
21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Bob: It is like canning. You have to cleanse the jar before you put something in it. If you do not cleanse the jar and put something in it, the food spoils. So you had to be cleansed of all of your unrighteousness in order to be filled with Him and His righteousness.
Mark 2:21-22
21 “No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse. 22 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins.”
Carol: Okay. That makes sense. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your ministry, Bob.
Bob: Good to hear from you again. Again, we are glad to be back in the Detroit area.
Carol: Yes, it is a blessing. Bye bye.
Bob: Bye now.
Mark from Houston, TX
Mark: I saw a Christian show on television where I saw a pastor hit a person or touched him on the forehead and the person fell down. Is that biblical or not? I have not seen it in the bible.
Bob: That is not biblical. That is nonsense people come up with. They call it slain in the Spirit. That is the dumbest thing I heard in my life. The Spirit of God did not come to knock us over. He came to give us life. If those people would spend more time talking about what He came to do instead of what they came to do. No, that is a charlatan. Those people are not speaking truth in any shape or form, Mark. It is a shame that many people see as a representative of Christianity is, by what they see on television. It is a shame that that representation is there, involved in all of that kind of shenanigans.
Mark: So, it is an act?
Bob: Yes. It is an act. What else could it be? If it is not real, it is an act. You can make a lot of money that way. You can get a lot of people deceived to support that kind of thing. But you will not find that in the bible. There is no place in the bible where someone is slain in the Spirit of God. He did not come to slay people. He came to give life to people.
Bob: So do not pay attention. I do not waste my time even watching it.
Mark: Okay. Thank you.
Bob: You are sure welcome, Mark. God bless you, my friend.
Wanda from Waldorf, MD
Wanda: My question is real quick and real sad. I attended a church quite awhile. When we tithed, the pastor got up and said when you missed your tithe, God asked 10 percent for that.
Bob: Nonsense.
Wanda: So it is nonsense?
Bob: Yes. Totally nonsensical teaching. In the first place, you are not under tithing today. You should not be teaching tithing today if you are a dependable pastor. A dependable pastor is trying to teach truth of the New Covenant. We have been told by the apostle Paul that we have been given what we need to be ministers of a New Covenant, not an old but new.
2 Corinthians 3:6
6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant – not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Bob: Is tithing in the New Covenant? No. Never mentioned. What is mentioned in the New Covenant? Freewill giving.
Wanda: Yes.
2 Corinthians 9:7
7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Bob: To excel in grace of giving. If I have been told by God that I have been equipped to become a minister of a New Covenant, then I would like to know what in the world I would be doing teaching the Old Covenant and teaching people you are in the Old Covenant when He has equipped me to be a minister of a New Covenant. If I am a minister of a New Covenant, that is all I ask pastors to do. I am not arguing with them. What I am saying is, “Are you a minister of a New Covenant or are you a minister of co-mingling the old and the new or are you just a minister of an Old Covenant? If you are a minister of a New Covenant, then I would challenge you to get into the scripture from the day Jesus died, which is when the New Covenant went into effect and try to find tithing.”
Hebrews 10:8-10
8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them” – though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Wanda: But you know they always go back to Malachi.
Bob: and Malachi was written to the Jew, the people of Israel
Malachi 3:6
6 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.
Wanda: That is what I thought.
Bob: You do not even have to get back to that. What I am trying to say is this. Are you a minister of a New Covenant? If you are, then what are you doing teaching Old Covenant tithing when New Covenant giving is written out in two chapters in the book of Corinthians.
Wanda: I know.
Bob: Why would you be teaching what is not there instead of teaching what is there?
Wanda: But they teach there.
Bob: I know that. What I am getting at is why? The issue is I do not know why? I do not want to think that pastors are trying to deceive people, but I have to assume that if you are a pastor, that you had some experience in studying the bible. If you had any experience in studying the bible, then you should have been taught some place down the line that there is a difference between an Old Covenant and a New Covenant. I am sure if you read the bible, then you have read passages that you have been made competent to be a minister of a New Covenant and not an Old. The letter kills but the Spirit gives life.
Bob: I do not understand, Wanda, for the life of me. I am not trying to be adamant or be argumentative with modern day church. I am just saying, I do not understand what you are doing when the bible very clearly teaches that you have been called, if you are truly God’s minister, to be a minister of the New Covenant. The New Covenant went into effect at the death of Christ Jesus, not at the start of his life. I challenge you to look into the death of Christ forward and try to find tithing in any of the writings in scriptures. They are not there. What is there? The teaching of freewill giving and to excel in the grace of giving. If that is there, why should you not be teaching that instead of going back to teaching about poor old Malachi? I do not know.
Bob: I get unbelievably frustrated, as you can imagine, Wanda, not because I do not understand how people can stand and belligerently defend a stance that is not there. I do not understand that unless they are intentionally doing so. There are two things I can think of. They are totally ignorant of scripture. Or they do know scripture and are sinning against the knowledge of truth. Or they are so fearful that they cannot trust people to give if you teach them freewill giving. They are so fearful to lose their church. I say lose it. If you cannot teach truth and keep your church, then fine, and get out and get a job.
Wanda: Even my husband will not go because of that factor.
Bob: It is a shame.
Wanda: Thank you so much, Bob. I appreciate your ministry. You have a blessed day.
Bob: You are welcome. Thank you so much.
Scott from Watkins, CO
Scott: I hear on the radio from time to time. A lady comes on here about healing in the atonement, about how our faith is supposed to be directed toward combating sickness that is brought on by the devil.
Bob: In the first place, Jesus did not come to atone for sin. He came to take away sin. There is a world of difference between the two. The blood of a bull and a goat atoned for sin.
Hebrews 10:1-4
1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
Bob: People are putting Jesus on the same par as a bull and a goat when they say he came to atone for sin. There is no atonement. Jesus did not come to atone for sin. He came to take it away.
Bob: Secondly, in dealing with taking away sins, that has nothing to do with physical healing at all, not even in the context of the Old Testament or the New. The context does not have anything at all to do with physical healing. Jesus certainly did not take away disease. He certainly has not taken away death. He just came to deal with it. That is exactly what he did.
2 Corinthians 5:19
19 God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not counting people’s sins against them.
Bob: This idea of healing in the atonement is just plain not biblical, not physical healing.
Scott: It is obvious when we come to Christ there is a change in our physical body in terms of the spiritual component of our bodies.
Bob: I think so too. I notice a lot of things bodily in Christians. I think they stay younger looking. That is a Christian walking in the Spirit. I am not saying that if, as a Christian, and still sucking up booze, then you will look like a booze drinker. So also with smoking cigarettes. After awhile, if you puff on a cigarette long enough you will get wrinkles on your face and people look like that. I find that a lot of people that are not engaged in those activities, Christian or not, look younger. But again, this body of ours is going downhill and there is no reversing of this. You will be bagging and sagging the older you get. You will get wrinkles and not see as well. There are lots of things taking place in this body that are prepared for the grave. But soul and spirit is what God came to save.
Scott: The part that seems most offensive to me is. I like to address from the scriptures. It is offensive to me when they make my personal faith an issue in healing with a sickness I had.
Bob: Most people teach with glasses on. If he does not have glasses, they have a rug on their head. Maybe they should grow some hair. It seems to me that would be an easy thing for God to do. Again, all of that is a bunch of phony talk.
Scott: It is offensive.
Bob: It is to me, too, brother. Thanks for your call, brother.
Bob from Lakewood, CO
Caller: I wonder if you know anything about Damascus. Has it ever been destroyed completely?
Bob: I am not sure. In scripture it talks about it will no longer be a city. Certainly if that is prophesied at the end times, which could be, because Damascus is certainly a place experienced in strong battles. It could be.
Isaiah 17:1
1 A prophecy against Damascus: “See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.
Caller: I just learned that from a 2 star general, if Hussein had any weapons of mass destruction. He said yes. Where are they? He said Damascus.
Bob: Of course people are idiots who say Saddam Hussein did not have any weapons of mass destruction when he had weapons of mass destruction. If you had something and you cannot find them, then you either hid them or moved them or never had them. But he did have them and used them. There are people who say Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction. He had them. He either moved them or destroyed them. I do not think he destroyed them. Let us say what is true. That we did not find them. It is like saying that some of the people looking over there are not in existence. Yes, they are in existence. We have just not found them yet.
Caller: Well, we do not know what is going to happen over there. I just think everything is winding down. It is happening exactly as Ezekiel 36 and Ezekiel 39. We are on the wrap up there.
Bob: I am glad we went over and glad we got back. I am glad we got to see Israel. I think it will be a long time before it opens up for tourism. Keep your eyes on Israel. That is where the end times are happening.
Caller: I wrote a song. I know nothing about music. I got an idea in my head. “Are you looking for the master?” That is a new one I wrote.
Bob: Well, that is a good one. Good title, brother.
Bob: Well, Robert, I appreciate your call. We will just wait to see day by day what is going to happen over there.
Caller: Okay. Thank you very much.
Bob: You are sure welcome, Bob. God bless you.
