Call-ins Radio Broadcast Friday 05/07/2021

Call-In Classic Christianity Radio – Bob George P632 (05-07-21)

Synopsis

People in all backgrounds are looking for purpose and meaning in life, whether you were brought up in a religious background or were in the habit of rejecting God, calling yourself an atheist. But there comes a time where you realize that this yearning in your heart for acceptance and love is not working. In that process, you hear a message about Christ or you pick up a bible and start reading. There you learn that Christ is the answer all along.

As you are getting your mind renewed, you may be confused for a while, because, if you came from a religious background, you are beginning to wonder about what you had been taught. Things just do not make sense. A pastor commits adultery. That in itself is alarming to you, when he is supposed to be a believer, and believers are not supposed to do that,and certainly not a pastor, whom you are relying on. Another pastor is preaching about tithing. And you are not even sure if that is what you are supposed to be doing or not. The church you grew up in never mentioned tithing. Yet another person says you have to get a second baptism. You are hearing so many different ideas you never really heard in your particular denomination you grew up in. So you wonder if anyone has the truth, for one person says that and another says that, and the bible you are reading seems to say something else.

The reality is, truth is not found in people. Truth is revealed to you by the Spirit of God, alive living in you, as you read His word, and He makes known to you the meaning of His word. Then when the Lord teaches you, then you replace error with truth, and are then able to experience all that God has for you. You come to know all that He has freely given you.

The Christian world needs to quit depending on what someone tells them. Begin to depend on the one who alone is our teacher and Counselor, the Holy Spirit. God uses a teacher but their role is to proclaim the good news. But in the final analysis, it is the Holy Spirit that has to teach us the truth. I can teach you what I have learned. I can teach you what God has revealed to me as truth. And hopefully it is absolute truth, but until God teaches you, not me, but God teaches you, then you are just believing what I am telling you.

Baptism is one of those topics that many recent believers get confused on. I grew up Catholic, and baptism had a certain meaning, that, according to Catholicism, not the bible, is a sacrament necessary for salvation, but you are only baptized as an infant. So after I came to know Christ, I knew nothing, except Jesus loves me this I know. So when someone asked me if I wanted to be baptized, my natural response was, “What for? I was already baptized as an infant.” As an infant in Christ, I needed to grow in understanding, with more time reading God’s word.

Later in life, I went to another denomination, and they believe in sprinkling, and so a common question I heard someone ask is, “Do you believe in sprinkling or in immersion?”. Then I went to an Assembly of God church, and the pastor there tells you that you need a second baptism, with evidence of speaking in tongues. Yes, it is only confusing because these men are not teaching what the bible teaches on the matter, and you have not grown in your understanding, with enough time in God’s word yet, to discern these things.

When you read the word of God, then it becomes very clear. The apostle Peter says that baptism, the removal of dirt from the body does not save you. John the Baptist talks about two different types of baptisms, one of water, and then one that Jesus does, that is, one of the Holy Spirit, and that is the important one, and that without water. And then you read Romans, Colossians, 1 Corinthians and the epistles of Paul, where doctrine on the most fundamental topic of what salvation is, is so thoroughly explained. Then it all becomes clear to you.

So I encourage you to not rely on someone to teach you, but start reading the epistles of Paul and ask the Lord to reveal truth to you. When you think about the gospel, on the things Jesus said, such as “the truth will set you free”, you think about that, and you want to know the truth, so can live as Jesus desires for you, an abundant life. You begin to experience newfound freedom as you begin to grasp all that Jesus has freely given you. So, enjoy the journey. Enjoy time learning and getting to know your Lord and Savior, who is your best friend. As you read the bible, you will read that He even calls you friend. So get to know Him.

Transcript

Dave from Vancouver, British Columbia

Dave: I have been reading your books lately. Even before I started reading your books, the Lord was telling me, “I accept you unconditionally no matter what you have done or what you do. There is nothing you can do to change how I feel about you.” I was feeling wonderful about it. I did not stay in the same condition. I understood now that the things that I thought were going to work to receive acceptance and love were not working anyways. There is a whole new way of going about it. I cannot help but go back to the old mindset where I came from out of other denominations. I am not saying any denomination is correct or incorrect, but I am saying that I was at a point where a church was saying I was possessed. I actually started to believe it until I started to understand that the people who were telling me that were not very loving people. How do you go from the old mindset to what I now know to be true and stay there?

Romans 12:2
2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is – his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Bob: Dave, I think it is a continual renewal of the mind that we have to continually be engaged in through the word of God because you have past things that Satan does not let you let go of. He tries to put it back in your head. It is renewing your mind on truth. As an example, someone telling you are demon-possessed when you are born again is nonsense. That would be coming from someone who not only does not know what he is talking about, but as you say, is not only unloving, but terribly misinformed. You cannot be indwelt by God and Satan at the same time. Demonic possession is being possessed by demons or by Satan or his demons. So that is an impossibility. That verbiage you do not need to pay any attention to. It is replacing the error that you have heard with truth.

John 8:32
32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Bob: Again, Dave, I do not know how anybody can have any solid stability in regard to truth if they are hanging onto anything, regardless of the denomination, denominational truth instead of going into the word of God on our own and let God teach us. If it matches up with what the leadership of a denomination believes that is fine. We have great fellowship together. But if it doesn’t, then I am certainly not going to say they are right and I am wrong for when God is teaching you then you are taught.

Bob: In the final analysis, the Christian world needs to quit depending on what someone tells them. Begin to depend on the one who alone is our teacher and Counselor, the Holy Spirit. God uses a teacher.

Ephesians 4:11-12
11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up

Bob: He gave some to be teachers and pastor-teachers and evangelists but their role is to proclaim the good news. But in the final analysis, Dave, it is the Holy Spirit that has to teach us the truth. I can teach you what I have learned. I can teach you what God has revealed to me as truth. And hopefully it is absolute truth, but until God teaches you, not me, but God teaches you, then you are just believing what I am telling you.

Dave: That is what I was thinking. Before I started reading your book, the Lord was telling me, “I love you unconditionally. There is nothing you can do to earn it, buy it or work for it.” I believed that and was so happy and felt so good. But the next day, I was so depressed because I went back to my old thinking. I knew it was the Lord telling me He was accepting me.

Bob: Let me stop you there just a minute Dave. The Spirit was revealing that to you, but again, thank God we have bibles. It is only when you read that.

Romans 10:17
17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

Bob: Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. You can know these things. If you are born again, the Spirit that lives in you is revealing things to you but He wants you to learn the meaning of it out of the word of God. So when you read it from the word of God, “I love you so much that I gave you my only begotten Son to you so whenever you turned to faith in me, you became a child of God.” Now you are taught by God you see.

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 1:12
12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God

Dave: There is no peace in what I used to think. Now, there is a lot of peace.

Bob: Absolutely. Whenever those temptations come, to grab a hold of old teaching, again, Dave, where it is old good, or old bad teaching, go back and get it confirmed by the word.

Dave: I see.

Bob: That is where it has to be confirmed. Otherwise, it is just an impression. So Satan comes along and asks, “Is that of God?” Or is that of me? And you say, “I do not know.” But you have to get to the point of saying I know where I believe that. You have to be convinced like the apostle Paul was.

Romans 8:37-39
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Bob: I look back and say, “That applies to me and I am perfectly loved. Thanks be to God for that.”, when I read that I am accepted in the beloved. Not only loved but accepted in the beloved, I am taught by God now, not by man, but by God.

Ephesians 1:6 (KJV)
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Dave: It is not just how taught, but also the ways I lived before just do not work. So why am I doing them? That is what the Lord was saying to me. I am just telling you that it does not work.

Bob: It is like trying to balance your bank account when you think 2 + 2 is 5. You are going to come to the conclusion that some say that this is not working.

Dave: That is where I am now. There is a reason there are certain ways to live. I know it was to let us know we are living wrong in the first place. But He empowers us to live the right way by teaching us. Like he said, you kind of teach me. No one else can but through the Holy Spirit who lives in me. I should be happy because I am learning.

Bob: Absolutely. That is the process God has you in until the day you are absent from the body and present with the Lord, seeing Him as He really is and becoming like Him. In the meantime, we have terrific joy of learning.

1 John 3:2
2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

Dave: Okay. That sounds great.

Bob: Okay, Dave. Good to hear from you, my friend. Bye Bye.

Julie from Nashville, TN

Julie: I got a quick question for you. This is basically about baptism. I was raised as a Lutheran. As Lutherans, they believe that you are baptized as a baby and you are fine. Alright. I fell away for most of my life. But thank God I am back now. Now my basic question is do I have to get re-baptized?

Bob: Julie, the issue is, there is not anything in the bible if the shoe fits wear it. There is nothing in the bible about baby baptism.

Julie: I thought people tell me you have to be re-baptized as an adult?

Bob: Hold on a minute, Julie. Let me answer your question. There is nothing in the bible about baby baptism. There is nothing in the bible about a necessity to be baptized to be saved.

1 Peter 3:21
21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also – not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ

Julie: Okay.

Bob: If baptism saved you, how could the apostle Paul say, “I am glad I did not baptize anybody.”

1 Corinthians 1:14-17
14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel – not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

Bob: If baptism was in the gospel, he could not make that statement, could he?

Julie: Right.

Bob: Then in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, it says the gospel that saves us is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Bob: It does not say anything about dunking or sprinkling in that statement. So baptism does nothing except as an expression of being baptized in the Spirit.

Acts 1:5
5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

Bob: It is a baptism of the Holy Spirit that saves you, not water baptism. No baby or anybody else is saved through getting baptized or to be rededicated. That is all man-made stuff. It is man-made by the Lutherans. It would be man-made by us if we were doing that. It would be man-made. It is not biblical. When you come to Christ, you come to Christ when you at that stage in life you recognize yourself as a sinner, and you recognize there is a consequence to sin called death, and the only person capable of giving you forgiveness and life is Christ Jesus and you accept Him by faith and you are saved.

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Julie: Okay.

Bob: So your first baptism probably did not mean a thing to you. In other words, you were not saved at that time. You were just baptized. After that, if you have become saved, and you want to make a public statement that I am a child of God and I am going to follow that commitment of being a child of God with baptism, fine. You do not have to but it is a great expression for you to do if you feel led by God to do so.

Julie: Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. That clears up a lot of questions. Bless you. Thank you for being on the air.

Bob: You are welcome, Julie. Thanks for listening. Bye. Bye.

Toni from Fresno, CA

Toni: I called because my dilemma is I have been raised a Baptist. I grew up in the church. I was attending a Baptist church locally in Fresno. I was a member of that church. I was so believing in the church, that I was paying my tithes. I was feeding the homeless, as one of the church ministries. The pastor brought the word so clear. It was spiritual. Unbeknownst to the church, the pastor was having an extramarital affair with the church secretary. So I left the church, and then I went back. He is fallible. But I went back to church, but I could not get that off my mind. So I started listening to Christian radio a few weeks ago, and found your ministry radio program. Then I started listening to another Baptist church. I started looking into visiting that church. Before going to that church, the minister was arrested for two counts of child molestation. The problem is that I grew up believing fellowship with believers is extremely important to one’s personal growth. I missed the fellowship, the singing, and the participation, but I was becoming very disillusioned with the church leaders. So what is God’s expectation in regards to someone who goes to church and one who does not go to church? I believe the bible. I listen to your Christian radio. I listen to the bible on cassette. I am at a loss as what to do spiritually.

Hebrews 10:24-25
24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another€”and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

Bob: Toni, there is not one passage in the bible that tells people to go to church. It tells the church to go to people. It does say to not forsake assembling together as some are accustomed to do. There is a reason to do that. It is just like logs on a fire. You get one log it smolders and goes out. You put two or three on, they feed on each other. So fellowship with the body of Christ is important.

Bob: But it is important that fellowship is with the body of Christ, with people of like mind. As you say, these men you are talking about are fallible. I believe, quite frankly, the reason you see, many times, that taking place in the leadership is because of people who are burned out. They are tired. They are burned out. Quite frankly, in many instances, I have found through my counseling, is the fact that they are literally hoping to get caught, in essence, so they can get out of the rat race they are in, having to pretend that they are something that they are not.

Bob: A guy said to me one time, “I do not know if I am a Christian practicing homosexuality. Or, I do not know if I am a homosexual practicing Christianity. I am burned out.” I did not know who he was either. Many times, churches will burn people out. There is this expectation of people. And people sit under that law of expectation, and the power of sin is in the law and it makes them extremely vulnerable to the temptations of Satan. So we have to have compassion in that regard.

Bob: But on the other regard is the fact of people allowing themselves to be put in a position of being burned out. That comes from that idea of “go sick them for Jesus” and “burn out for Jesus” mentality. I heard pastors say that my goal in life is to burn out for Jesus. But the Spirit does not burn out. The flesh does burn out but the Spirit does not burn out. It is people functioning in accordance with the way people want them to function. They want them to burn out for Jesus. Instead of functioning as being led by the Spirit. People are thinking, ’I have to function being led by the board of directors, by the deacon board, by the elder board and by this and that committee” instead of allowing Christ Jesus to lead me spiritually. So there are a lot of problems. I said that to the other young man in the denominational world today because of those pressures.

Bob: As far as you are concerned, you are a child of the living God and you have the Spirit of God living in you.

Toni: Yes.

Bob: That is really where your thoughts should be. I get amazed, to a degree, how people talk about going to church. I love the church. I love the body of Christ. What about the head? That is where the church has become. People have been totally preoccupied with the body at the exclusion of the head. The scriptures talk about that, that we have lost contact with the head.

Colossians 2:16-23
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. 19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

The church world has become like a chicken with its head cut off, flapping around, making a lot of noise, splashing blood all over the place, but lost contact with the head. You are in contact with the head spiritually, personally.

Toni: Yes, I am.

Bob: So let the Spirit of God just work with you during this period of time, regardless of where you park your car on Sunday. It is one of the least significant things you will do all week. It is an hour out of the week. If it is the only time you are going to be fed, on a 20 minute message on Sunday morning, then you are pitifully malnourished.

Toni: Yes. I left the ministry of the homeless. I found another ministry. I work with the terminally ill.

Bob: Sure. Great ministry.

Bob: Let God use you to guide you individually there. That is the greatest joy that you will ever have in your life any way, is reaching out. The purpose of the body of Christ, Toni, was to mature saints. It is not to evangelize the lost. That is to be done outside the walls of the church, but to mature saints to do what? To prepare them for their work of ministry. Hold on. Toni is going to do ministry outside the walls. Someone in church says, “We cannot have that.” Well, that is where ministry is conducted, outside the walls. It seems to me, in your case, you have grown and matured in your walk with Christ and have a great grasp on the word of God, and have a ministry. Just follow that and let that be your joy.

Toni: Thank you very much. I want to thank you. I found this radio station. God led me to it about two weeks ago. I now listen to it every day. I have learned so much. It has reaffirmed my walk and belief. And listening to stories of others. I know that I am serving the head of the church. Thank you very much.

Bob: You are sure welcome, Toni. Keep focusing where you belong, with your eyes on Christ and not on men.

Toni: Thank you. God bless. Bye. Bye.

Bob: You too. Bye. Bye, Toni.

Mike from Colorado Springs, CO

Mike: Good evening,Bob.

Bob: Hi, Mike.

Mike: Thank you for taking my call. In the past few days, I have listened to this radio station. I was tuning to a sports radio station and happened to stop on this. I have been enlightened to say the least. I live in beautiful Colorado Springs and I am surrounded by Focus on the Family. In the past, I denied God and denied religion. I would not consider myself an atheist, but definitely a non-believer. I found myself extremely lost and confused and out of control with who I am, as a father and a husband and a member of society. My question is this. I so much want to give myself to God and to give myself to Jesus. I am scared. I do not know why. Fear of the unknown? I am not sure. My question to you is should I feel reserved? Is there something wrong with me?

Hebrews 2:14-15
14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death – that is, the devil – 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

John 3:17
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

John 12:32
32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

Acts 17:26-27
26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.

Bob: There is a spiritual battle that is going on. Bless your heart in your life right now. I do not know how old you are. I was thirty six when I went through that conflict. I had all the things the world had to offer. But again, I found out I had nothing and I was empty inside. I was just totally empty inside, with no meaning and purpose to life at all.

Ecclesiastes 2:17
17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end.

Bob: That is basically what you are experiencing. It is God pulling you to Himself. That is the unknown taking place in your life. It is because it is God tugging at your heart for you to come to Him. From the sound of your voice, it sounds to me like you are ready to respond to that call.

Bob: If you are, I would like to just explain to you briefly what the gospel is. It is a man in that lost condition. We were born into this world without the Spirit of God living in us. In other words, we are on our own to make our own decisions. And then we find out it is not working. It plain just does not work.

Romans 5:12
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned

Bob: God in the man is indispensable to the true humanity of the man just as electricity in a light bulb is indispensable to its function or gasoline in a car is indispensable to its function. It can be a car but it will not run properly. That is how we are. We are living without God living in us, doing the best we can, with a total realization it is not good enough. God made a solution to that.

Romans 5:15-19
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Bob: There is sin that enters into our lives. That is what had to be taken away. That is what Jesus did at the cross. Jesus bled and died and suffered the punishment of God for our sin for us and took them away from the eyes of God through His sacrifice. He did that for the entire world.

1 John 2:2
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Bob: Then He entered into our spiritual death with us. The separation that we have. He entered into that so that through His resurrected life, He could give us life. That is where our problem is. We are dead spiritually and in need of spiritual life and Jesus said, Mike, “I came that you might have life. I am the resurrection and the life and whosoever believes in me though you were dead yet shall you live. Whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

John 11:25-26
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

Bob: So, Mike, what we do is we come into a relationship with the living God. He is calling unto you, saying “to as many as receive Him, I give the right to become a child of God, Mike.”

John 1:11-13
11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God – 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

Bob: If that is your desire tonight, to enter into that relationship with Christ just as I did some forty years ago, I would love the privilege of praying with you, but I think that is happening in your life. God is tugging at you. He is ready for you to come and you are ready to come and meet Him.

Mike: I appreciate that. Thank you. I tried to be intellectual through Christianity, to fight it. To tell you the truth, I tried to use every tool to prove it wrong. It is amazing to me it has come around a full circle. I am literally humble. My body is shaking. I am teared up just because I know that it is right in my heart. I have known it for my life and yet I always said that evil follows the path of least resistance. I believe that I have allowed evil to consume me through alcoholism and other issues. I have overcome those obstacles but yet I still find myself pulling. I am afraid. How come I do not feel a spark? How come I do not feel? Sometimes I listen to ministries. I love your teachings. They are strict. They are a father figure. This is how, and it makes sense. When I hear others who say Jesus loves you, why is it that I roll my eyes? It makes me feel scared. I think to myself that I am mocking it. I guess I am confused.

Bob: Well, Mike, you have been in a habit of that. You have been in a habit of rejecting, like the apostle Paul. The apostle Paul not only rejected Christianity, he helped people kill Christians. But there comes a time when God says you you are hitting your head against the goads.

Acts 22:3-5
3 “I [Paul] am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city. I studied under Gamaliel and was thoroughly trained in the law of our ancestors. I was just as zealous for God as any of you are today. 4 I persecuted the followers of this Way to their death, arresting both men and women and throwing them into prison, 5 as the high priest and all the Council can themselves testify. I even obtained letters from them to their associates in Damascus, and went there to bring these people as prisoners to Jerusalem to be punished.

Acts 26:13-15
13 I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. 14 We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’

15 “Then I asked, ‘Who are you, Lord?’

“ ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied.

Bob: You are bucking up against something you cannot butt up against. It comes down to the point where you say, “I am ready to quit fighting. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired. I am ready to quit fighting. What I want to do tonight is accept the Lord Jesus Christ into my heart as my Lord and Savior.”

1 John 4:18
18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

Bob: Perfect love casts out fear and when you come into contact with the perfect love of God, then that fear you are experiencing will no longer be there because the love of God overwhelms that fear. It is a tug you are going through and it is a decision you have to make, and when you make it, you will wonder why you were ever resisting. I can tell you that in total assurance.

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