Classic Christianity – The Premise for Predestination – Part 1 – 8-18-25
The Premise for Predestination – Part 1 – 8-18-25
~ Both HEBREWS and Gentiles are predestined for salvation, the same way. By placing Faith in Jesus, God in the flesh to have taken away all your sins at the cross. No one is saved by asking for forgiveness. No one is saved by having their sins forgiven by God. Salvation is Life, the Life of God, through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who brings life to the dead. Once a person has the Holy Spirit, they are ALIVE, and nothing can ever make them dead again. Nothing can separate you from His Love, for His Loves lives in you, and gives you Life the very moment you placed Faith in Him.
“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. What matters is faith expressing itself through love.” Galatians 5:6
The people that are teaching you can lose your salvation today, don’t understand what salvation is. And this is not simply error in teaching, but it is planned lies by Satan. It is meant to deceive the people, all the nations of the world, and most are indeed deceived today on this very Truth. “That God was reconciling the world to Himself in Christ, not counting men’s trespasses (sins) against them. And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation.” 2 Corinthians 5:19 And the ones that are most deceived are the ones who have been to extended seminary training, where they have been indoctrinated with Satan’s lies and the doctrines of demons. Yes, they are lies of Satan and doctrines of demons that are passed on down the line. And the lies of history are passed on down also, through characters that are nothing more than transformed agents working for Satan to even deceive the elect of God. They are controlled opposition plants, that pastors constantly referred to as “the founding fathers,” as though they have Truth and you don’t. Folks, the only place ALL Truth comes from is directly from God, through the Holy Spirit teaching us TRUTH directly from the word of God. Why go to a commentary when you can go directly to God’s word to read Truth for yourself. And we have at our fingertips the ability to look at the original words in the Greek and Hebrew text to see if things are so or not.
We should realize by now that every big box and most other churches are satan’s sifting floors, where every wind of doctrine is promoted, depending on the flavor a person wants to hear. Whatever their itching ears want to hear, they can find it in these so-called churches, which are No church at all. And don’t trust in the teaching of Man, any Man, including yourself (don’t lean on your own understanding), because we have all been taught lies. Go directly to the Holy Spirit and ask God directly for wisdom, and He will give it with great abundance without finding fault. And when we say Man, we are referring to both male and female. For Man is male and female, Adam and Eve, from the beginning.
As has been said, numerous times, nothing is as it seems today. Most have no clue of the deceptions they and the whole world are under. And don’t think that satan could never deceive you, for we all have been deceived in lots of ways, and have passed on satan’s lies without even realizing it. And most are deceived by satan every day watching the Tell-A-Vision lies. Time to wise up in the Holy Spirit, and humble ourselves, and not think we know it all. This is true for even those that teach Grace, because there are deeper lies of Satan that most are not aware of.
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Does TRUTH matter? You bet it does. ALL TRUTH matters.
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And a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, having done what, will I inherit eternal life?”
And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good, except God alone.
~ “Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.” 1 John 5:12
~ Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; the one believing in Me, even if he should die, he will live. And everyone living and believing in Me shall never die, to the age. Do you believe this?” John 11:25,26
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Pray to God:
Do you really want to know the WHOLE Truth of what is going on today?
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you.” Matthew 7:7
Lord Jesus, teach me the truth of the world today and give me the wisdom to know the truth and identify the lies of the devil. Thank you God.”
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~ “Some people teach that, that it is God’s will that he chose who he’s going to save, and you’re predestined. So if I’m saved, I just walk around say, I guess I must be one of God’s frozen chosen. And I guess I was chosen by God before the foundation of the earth. That’s what it says in the Bible about predestination. And we’ve been taught to believe that. That is nonsense at predestination. And election and choosing in the Bible is all concerning HEBREW and Gentile. Period has nothing to do with yous and mes. There is a entire thought of theology called Reformed theology that teaches hyper Calvinism. What is hyper Calvinism? What we just taught that you God chose you, but he didn’t choose you, and that you don’t have a will, that God’s grace is irresistible. Called irresistible grace. You can’t resist it. Really? Really, those kind of teachings are so acceptable and in such nice churches and by a lot of so called intellectual people that it has become so acceptable that people are almost afraid not to grab a hold of it. I have to look at that and say that is nonsense. Now, where did Reformed theology go off? It went off at the foundation. If your premise is off, your findings are going to be off. Are we together? If your foundation is off, your house is going to crack down on you. Where did this go off? At the foundation. How did it go off? By believing that you’re saved by getting your sins forgiven. Nothing can be farther from the truth. You’re not saved by getting your sins forgiven. You’re saved through the resurrection. It is the resurrection of Christ that saves you. What are you saved from? The consequence of sin. What is the consequence of sin? Death. How are you born into this world, alive, spiritually or dead? Spiritually dead when you were dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ, He forgave all of your sins.” ~ Bob George
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Well, let’s turn to the book of Ephesians, chapter one. We have been talking about over the last couple of weeks, these first 14 verses in the book of Ephesians, as we deal with the fact that God has called out the HEBREW and the Gentile for salvation. Now, guys, we don’t pay much attention to that today, because we don’t have the same type of a situation they had back then. But in the HEBREW world, everything that God called them to, including their dress, the way they cut their hair, everything about them was for the purpose of saying, You are set apart from the rest of the world. You’re not like the rest of the world. I have given you revelation in regard to who I, God Am. And they worshiped the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they worshiped the God of the Old Testament, and they worshiped Him as called out unique separate people. The Gentile world was the very opposite of that. The Gentile world was heathenistic. The Gentile world had many gods. The Gentile world didn’t care about the gods they have. They were and we were a unique group of people because we had no relationship with God. And that was the distinction between man. The distinction wasn’t republican and democrat or liberal or conservative. The distinction in the world was the fact that you were either HEBREW or you were Gentile. period. Now to the HEBREW world that had pursued righteousness taken the law of God that He gave them, and again, remember that the purpose of the law was to show a man to be perfectly sinful, so that he would turn to God For His salvation. The HEBREW world took that law and misused its purpose and made it an object of righteousness, that my obedience to it makes me righteous. There’s only one problem. No one was ever obedient to it. The leaders would act as they do today, as if they are obedient to it. And Jesus said, You’re a bunch of hypocrites, you’re a bunch of whitewash sepulchers. You’re all clean on the outside, but you’re dirty on the inside. And so Jesus, who sees the heart of people, rather than the exterior, exterior actions of people, identified immediately the heart, and he said, You’re hypocrites.
Now to the HEBREW. That was not good news. But that is the group that Jesus came into. That is the group that Christ appeared to that was the group in which his ancestors was from. Jesus was born of a HEBREW woman, and so in the midst of that group, Jesus had to come into them and to get them to see under the skin that they could not do it. Paul, later on, described that no man will ever be declared righteous in the sight of God through obedience to the law, that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, that there’s none righteous, no, not one. But the HEBREW did not understand that. They thought, I look I got my hair cut right. I have the right clothes that I wear. I worship on a Saturday. I do all of these things that I’m supposed to do, and therefore don’t tell me that God doesn’t accept me. And Jesus came and said, God looks on your heart, and God looks on what you’re thinking. And you say, in the law, do not commit adultery. I say, if you look at a woman lust in your heart, you’ve already committed adultery. Now he got under my skin. Now he got down to what I’m thinking. The law says don’t murder. I tell you, if you’re angry at somebody, you’ve already committed murder, he’s under my skin now. He’s down where people don’t see and I see that I’m a hypocrite. Now I’m ready for salvation, but the you did not see that until Jesus came to point it out to them. And so you had this terrific conflict, guys, between the religious HEBREW world and the Gentile world, which was totally non religious. There was a separation. Put it in your mind. Try to think about it for a minute as to these religious people and and I’ll tell you something, guys, they weren’t religious like you and me. I mean, they were really religious. And brother, they followed the law outwardly.
To this day, in what is in what is the hyper J@@ish faith, the Orthodox. That’s what they all were back then. There weren’t any, there weren’t any conservative Jews, just Orthodox J@@s. That’s That’s what HEBREWISM was back then. Wear their hair certain way, they dress a certain way. They don’t spit on the ground, because that would make mud on the Sabbath. You spit on other days, just not on the Sabbath. All of these things, these laws, to this very day, you go to Israel, and it’s the Sabbath, and you want to get to your room, you’re going to have to take a Shabbat elevator. What’s that? Well, somebody figured out that it would be work to push a button, and we can’t have anybody working on the Sabbath, and J@@s are staying in hotels on the Sabbath, so what are we going to do? No one ever stopped to think that’s stupid. They just said, Yeah, that would be work. And so somebody came up with the idea of developing an elevator that you walked in front of and it came down and then stopped at every floor. So now I don’t have to push a button, so I’m not working on the Sabbath. How you get in your room? I don’t know, but I do know how you get to your floor. Those kind of laws are still in existence today, and followed, well, does that separate you from the Gentile world? I go over there and think, this is crazy. You go into a restaurant and you can’t have meat and milk at the same place. That’s crazy. You say, why? Well, because of this scripture, read the Scripture. It’s crazy interpretation, and yet somebody interpreted it that way, and to this very day, it’s followed. That separates them from the world. I don’t follow that. And they look at me as heathen. I look at them as stupid. There’s conflict, isn’t there? Conflict. So I want you to put that conflict in your heart, and I want you, as we talk through these things, to put that in your heart.
Now here God comes along in his plan of salvation, and he says that Gentile, not only did I choose the HEBREW for salvation, but I also chose you for salvation. Me? I’m not even seeking God. I know you’re not. They weren’t either. They just thought they were. They were seeking religion. You weren’t seeking anything, so you’re both on the same plane, lost. So when you go to verse 11 in the book of Ephesians, chapter one in Him, we were also that’s the Gentiles chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of His will, in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ. That’s the HEBREW might be for the praise of his glory, and you also, that’s the Gentiles were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Now, folks, we. That is what predestination and choosing is all about. It was about God’s plan to choose the HEBREW for salvation and to also choose the Gentiles for salvation. Predestination is it that I predestined Ellen for salvation, but I didn’t predestine Charles for salvation.
Some people teach that, that it is God’s will that he chose who he’s going to save, and you’re predestined. So if I’m saved, I just walk around say, I guess I must be one of God’s frozen chosen. And I guess I was chosen by God before the foundation of the earth. That’s what it says in the Bible about predestination. And we’ve been taught to believe that. That is nonsense at predestination. And election and choosing in the Bible is all concerning HEBREW and Gentile. Period has nothing to do with yous and mes. There is a entire thought of theology called Reformed theology that teaches hyper Calvinism. What is hyper Calvinism? What we just taught that you God chose you, but he didn’t choose you, and that you don’t have a will, that God’s grace is irresistible. Called irresistible grace. You can’t resist it. Really? Really, those kind of teachings are so acceptable and in such nice churches and by a lot of so called intellectual people that it has become so acceptable that people are almost afraid not to grab a hold of it. I have to look at that and say that is nonsense. Now, where did Reformed theology go off? It went off at the foundation. If your premise is off, your findings are going to be off. Are we together? If your foundation is off, your house is going to crack down on you. Where did this go off? At the foundation. How did it go off? By believing that you’re saved by getting your sins forgiven. Nothing can be farther from the truth. You’re not saved by getting your sins forgiven. You’re saved through the resurrection. It is the resurrection of Christ that saves you. What are you saved from? The consequence of sin. What is the consequence of sin? Death. How are you born into this world, alive, spiritually or dead? Spiritually dead when you were dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ, He forgave all of your sins.
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So by not going to the fullness of the gospel, ignoring passages in Romans as an example, that says while we were yet enemies. That means lost. While, we were lost we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, not will be. Didn’t say we will be. He said, You were reconciled. That’s past tense. That’s done, that’s over. It’s finished. How much more having been reconciled? Shall you be saved by his what? Life. Jesus said, I came that you might have what? Life. He said, I am the way and the truth and the what? Life. He who has the Son has what? Life. He who does not have the Son does not have what? Life. The whole issue of salvation is bringing the dead alive. Forgiveness does not provide life for the dead. Forgiveness at the cross was what cleared the deck for the divine action of bringing resurrection to people. It’s a preparation. And I say that a fact that we ignore many times, and I didn’t even recognize it until maybe a year ago. But Jesus died on the Hebrew holiday of the day of preparation. Think that’s accidental? No, it’s not accidental. That’s what the cross was. Was preparation, the day of preparation. Preparation for what? Salvation that was going to occur three days later. Now, you could not have one without the other, but do not mistake one for the other. In order to have eternal life, you had to put your faith in the eternal consequence of the cross, because if Jesus forgot one and gave you life, and you committed that one what would happen to you if the wages of sin is what? Death. What would happen to you? Die, die.
And so for people who claim another denominational group that you can lose your salvation is denying the cross. That’s all it is. It’s just saying. Jesus lied when he said it’s finished. Jesus lied when he said it’s complete. Because if you do not believe in the completeness of the cross, why then you could lose your salvation because I committed a sin that he didn’t die for. There’s only one sin attributable to man. It’s the sin Jesus says, of unbelieve in me. It’s the rejection of God’s provision for you and me. It’s the only sin attributable.
Now, what happened this Reformed theology? Well, they believe that you got your salvation is getting your sins forgiven. So you read the passage that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself, not counting their sins against them. Now, guys, do you have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that if that is true and you’re saved by getting your sins forgiven, that is universal salvation? Do you have to be a brain scientist to figure that out? That if God was in Christ, reconciling the whole world unto Himself, not counting our sins against them. That’s universal salvation, if salvation is getting your sins forgiven. And yet we have people who say, No, I don’t believe in universal salvation, but God died for our sins past, present and future. Really? Do you really believe that? Well, then why are you bringing people forward to get their sins forgiven? Why are you teaching people that you’re saved by getting your sins forgiven? They don’t make sense, does it? Am I being clear? So they believed, you’re saved by getting your sins forgiven. Well, we can’t have that. We don’t believe in universal salvation. I say, Amen, sure don’t. But you see, instead of recognizing, hold on a minute that’s not salvation, that’s preparatory that’s preparatory, they hung on to save by getting your sins forgiven, and they also hung on to the fact that that’s universal salvation, which can’t be so we had better spin the world. And that’s what they do. They say the Greek doesn’t say the world. It means the elect, that God just died for the elect, that God was in Christ, reconciling some of you unto Christ, not counting your sins against you, and on and on and on. In that philosophy, if you believe that, why? Then you have to eliminate free will, which they also do that you don’t have a will. You. And on and on and on, you have to go spinning the most obvious truths in the Bible. Why? Because they believe, they believed that you’re saved again, your sins forgiven.
Now, guys, I want to ask you a question, and I want you to think, you know God. My dad used to tell me, son, God gave you that head to do more than put a hat on. He gave it to you to think. Why did he say that? Because I was thinking. No, I wasn’t thinking. He said, Think, son, think use your mind. Now we need to use our minds not just sit there and let all this stuff just flow around and wobble around someplace. Let it sink in. Think it through, ponder on it. It’s truth that will set you free. So we sit here and we have to say to ourselves, if that is what’s being taught, do I know how to confront someone that believes it? Do I know how to talk to someone who believes it? Because I want to tell you guys that is big popular theology. So you got that group. Then you got a group that teaches that you can lose your salvation. Then you got a group over there that thinks you got to speak in tongues in order to be saved. Then you got another group that thinks you got to be baptized to be saved. Now is everyone right or is everyone wrong? Or are we just a little confused?
My friends, I want to tell you something. People say to me sometimes, what’s your opinion? I say I don’t have an opinion. When I quote God’s word, I don’t have an opinion. I got an opinion on stuff that I can’t justify. I can have an opinion on stuff that I can’t prove. That’s an opinion, but when I’m talking about God’s word, I don’t have an opinion. When I say you’re saved eternally, that’s not opinion. That’s truth. There’s a difference between truth and an opinion. Do we know how to meet those things? Because guys, we’re going to be confronted with it. And in my opinion, I think we’re winding down. People have thought that for years. I think we’re winding down. And I think we’re coming down to a point of crises. And I want to tell you something guys that even though this group and any other group like it may be a remnant. God has used remnants down through the ages to change the world, remnants who know how to communicate truth to people, and if we don’t know how to communicate it, we need to learn. So the issue is that this issue of predestination was that God chose you as a Gentile, that you were going to be able to be saved the same way that he chose the HEBREW, and that was by faith. Now, guys, what separated the HEBREWS from the Gentile? The HEBREWS had the law. Gentiles didn’t have the law. We stole it. Yeah, that’s how dumb we are. The HEBREWS couldn’t keep it, but we will. Oh, really. And so we have become as legalistic as Gentiles, teachers, as the HEBREWS ever thought of becoming. He didn’t give the law to the Gentiles. He gave the law to the HEBREWS, and that was their identity. We are people of the law. That wasn’t true of the Gentiles. So what did God do? What’d he do at the cross? He nailed the law to the cross.
To the HEBREWS, saying, you may as well forget it. You couldn’t keep it. It’s on the cross. It’s gone. Don’t use it anymore as a means of salvation. It’s gone. It’s nailed the cross. What did that do? It put everyone on the same level, on the same plane level. Now the HEBREW didn’t have the law to brag about. The Gentiles never had the law to brag about. We’re all on equal grounds. And he says, that’s where I want you. I want all of you flat on your face, flat on your HEBREW face, and flat on your Gentile face, until you see that you can’t But I did, and that’s when, when people come to that wonderful understanding of the grace of God that reached down to us, seeing the Gentiles in the pitiful condition we were in, and seeing the HEBREWS in the pitiful, hypocritical condition that they were in, and saying, I’m going to neutralize them, and I’m going to save them. I’m going to offer one Messiah. I’m going to offer One person, and he’s my Son, whose blood is of such value that it is able to take away the sins of the entire world, back to Adam and forward to eternity. I’m going to give them my Son and my Son is going to come and do what they’re incapable of doing. My Son is going to walk on this earth for some 2000 excuse me, for some 30 some years, and he’s going to walk in perfect righteousness. In so doing, he is going to show the people that he’s walking in front of their unrighteousness. He isn’t going to say, Come and be righteous like me, because we can’t. He’s showing them that I have a righteousness that you don’t have and never will. After I have fulfilled the law by walking in perfect love, and love is the fulfillment of the law. I’m going to usher in, going to cancel and usher in a brand new agreement between Man and me, and it’s an agreement of grace. And as we’ve talked before, that agreement is an agreement that has you and me out of the equation. Every other agreement we were in the equation. Here’s the law, you obey it. We couldn’t. Everything he gave to us. We couldn’t and didn’t.
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Stand on the firmness of truth. Don’t keep going back and forth. Thank Him that the forgiveness issue is settled.
Let’s pray together:
- Lord Jesus,
- I thank you for taking away my sins on the cross,
- never ever to see them again.
- Having done that, I now thank you for giving me eternal life,
- through your resurrection.
- I now receive that life.
- And I am going stand in the fact that I am a child of the living God.
- In Jesus Holy name I pray.
- Amen
All believers are now brothers and sisters in Christ.
John 3:3
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”














