Call-ins Radio Broadcast Friday 02/15/2019

      Friday February 15 2019

Call-In Classic Christianity Radio – Bob George P415 (2-15-19)

Bob George RadioBob answers some basic foundational questions callers asked on salvation as it relates to baptism, salvation, forgiveness of sin, and righteousness. Bob shares several passages of scriptures for each caller, showing from God’s word the truth they needed to ponder, so they can walk in that truth. Bob explained the meaning of scriptures to them so they could grasp the concepts that the Spirit spoke through him that he discerned they lacked in clarity of understanding. The callers asked sincere questions with a heart attitude of wanting to know truth. You can sense in how they asked that they really wanted to know truth and in their current walk in life these truths were being formed in them.

Bob clears up a little confusion Cletis had on what baptism is based on false teaching he was hearing from various things he has heard from new church he was attending. Leadership there were telling him that he should be baptized again. There is water baptism and there is spiritual baptism. There is water baptism, a symbol or picture of what Christ accomplished for us, but does not save you. It is only a picture of what happened. Spiritual baptism is what Christ really accomplished for you when you believed in Him, in his death, burial and resurrection that accomplished salvation for you personally. Now if someone says you must be baptized in their waters by their pastor in their church to be saved, then they  are misleading you and what they are telling you is not in accordance with truth. Bob shared several passages of scripture thoroughly explaining the baptism of John, the example of baptism that did not save in Acts, and then the true baptism that John testified of that Jesus would do. Bob shares what spiritual baptism really is; identifying with Christ’s death to take away the sins of the world, seeing your sins included on that cross, Christ’s burial, where sins, yours included, are remembered no more in the eyes of God, and Christ’s resurrection, where you are raised with Christ into a new spiritual birth, placed in the body of Christ, having accepted God’s  gift of life, His Spirit to live in you. Bob explained how that is distinct from John’s baptism which was for repentance only and for the purpose of Christ to be revealed as the promised Messiah to Israel. So unless you are going to be baptized in water, not to save you because a symbol cannot save, but as a public testimony to others, symbolizing that which Christ has already done for you, then there really is no reason to do so again, and certainly not for the reasons the leader was telling you.

Bill called asking Bob if he thought he was a Christian based on having asked God’s forgiveness of sin and had asked Jesus to come live in him one point in his life. Bob indicated he was a believer but then further explained truth to him, sensing his understanding of truth was a little cloudy. Bob explained what Jesus accomplished by his death on the cross to take away sin but we are really saved by Christ’s resurrection when we received his new resurrected life . Bob shares several passages of scripture where such truth was revealed to him by the Spirit of God. Truth does not come from denominations but from what God reveals to us by His word.

Lo called in to ask what should she do with someone she is dating she just found out is a homosexual. Bob firmly told her to cease dating him. You would not want to participate with him in that sin nor be unequally yoked with a non-believer. Tell him the truth in love but to continue dating him is foolish and would only induce harm to you as well. According to Romans he has chosen not to retain the knowledge of God so God has given him over to a depraved mind.

Jesus is Our Righteousness

The last caller, Michelle, was confused on what righteousness is or even where it comes from. Bob explained the gospel in the context of her question and explained that righteousness is right standing with God, comes from God through Christ’s completed work and is received in His resurrected life, along with all that is in Christ, including His holiness, redemption, and forgiveness of sin, and indeed all that is in Christ. Bob explained that man never had any righteousness of his own for righteousness is what allows us to approach God. We were spiritually dead in sin and had to be born again with Christ’s righteousness to approach Him.  But we are told in scripture, that now in Christ to those who believe in Christ’s finished work, we can boldly approach the throne of grace for help in time of need. Bob also shared several passages of scripture with her and encouraged her to look up all the passages on righteousness and let the Spirit teach you.

Cletis from Vienna, VA

Cletis started going to another church where he was preached to be baptized again. His question was, “Should I be baptized more than once?”

Matthew 3:11
“I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Acts 1:5
For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

Acts 19:1-3
While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior  and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them,  “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” They answered, “No,  we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 So Paul asked,  “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied.

Now in Acts, we also read where some disciples were baptized by John but  did not know what Paul was asking when he asked them if they received  the Holy Spirit. They had not even heard there is a Holy Spirit. They  were not saved yet because they did not have the Holy Spirit in them.  John’s baptism did not count for salvation. No one is saved of water  baptism. Such a baptism can make you wet and can symbolize something  else, but still only a symbol. If water baptism by John did cause  something to take place, then how could the story of Acts be explained?

John the Baptist also testified of another baptism, the one he said who  would come after him, and that only he would do. Jesus is the one who  will baptize with the Spirit. Notice in the scripture, Jesus never  actually baptized anyone with water, although the Pharisees thought he did.

John 4:1-2
Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and  baptizing more disciples than John— 2 although in fact it was not Jesus  who baptized, but his disciples.

And if water baptism was so important for salvation, why didn’t the  apostle Paul baptize anyone? Well, he did baptize a few people but  nothing he even considered of  significance for salvation.

1 Corinthians 1:13-17
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in  the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you  except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in  my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond  that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not  send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and  eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

The power of salvation is in the preaching of the gospel, in regards to the cross of Christ and its power.

Until the day of Pentecost, no one was saved prior to that time. No one  can be saved by the life of Jesus until the resurrection. The old  testament saints were saved on a credit card, waiting for the finality  of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and then went to the  presence of God. You are saved when you are baptized by the Holy Spirit  in the body of Christ. So we have become the body of Christ when we  believed the message of the gospel. The Holy Spirit has come to live in  us and placed us in him, and that is being identified with and being  baptized, or placed into, the body of Christ.

John 16:7-11
7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away.  Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will  send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the  wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because  people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going  to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment,  because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

Advocate is another name for the Holy Spirit. An advocate is one who  stands in your defense before God. Righteousness is the work of the Holy  Spirit living in us. That is salvation when the Holy Spirit comes to  live in you, who raised you from spiritual death.

As 1 Peter also specifically makes it clear that baptism with water does  not save. But water baptism provides a symbol, or picture, of what Jesus  accomplished spiritually in saving you.

1 Peter 3:21
and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the  removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience  toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Water baptism is symbolic of that which saves, the true spiritual  baptism that saves. If water baptism is symbolic, how can it save? We  cannot do anything to even bring about or even add a little thing to be  saved. Jesus died on the cross alone. We were never with him period. We  were not alive spiritually before we were alive physically, as the cults  teach. Jesus lived a perfect life, and then he died to take away the  cause of death, which is sin, to never be seen again in the eyes of God.  He fulfilled the law by walking in perfect love. He entered into his  life with me and I entered into his life with him. He baptized me by the  Spirit into His body.

1 Corinthians 12:
13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body —  whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free — and we were all given the one  Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

So we are all the body of Christ, those who are born again spiritually,  having the Holy Spirit come to live in you. The body is one but has many  parts. That is the finality of salvation. Not body of Christ because  joined a man-made organization. Not the body of Christ because joined a  Catholic, Baptist, or some other denomination. Those are man-made  organizations. Salvation has nothing to do with what we do, nothing to  do with speaking tongues, going to church, baptizing, or tithing. Jesus  never baptized anyone and neither did Paul, except Crispus and Gaius.  Paul came to preach the gospel and did not come to baptize. There is  nothing in the gospel about baptizing. It was a before pointer to a  ceremonial washing and an after pointer to a spiritual baptism. Water  baptism is a picture of what has taken place, but it is just that, a  picture. Being baptized by a pastor in his waters in his church is about  joining a club not about salvation. Following up by participating in a  public testimony in water baptism, where you are identifying with your  true spiritual baptism, then after that there really is no need or  purpose to be further baptized.

Then Cletis asked a further question, “What is the difference between our dipping in water and what Jesus did?”

John’s baptism was for Jesus to be identified to Israel as the promised Messiah.

John 1:31-33
31 I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.”
32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him.
33 And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’

John testified that the one who told him to baptize with water will  baptize with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit had told him that when he  sees the one on whom the Holy Spirit come down from heaven like a dove  and land on him, then that man is the Messiah.

Later, Jesus asked to be baptized by John to fulfill all righteousness.

Matthew 3:13-15
13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John.
14 But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”
15 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented.

To fulfill all righteousness means to fulfill prophesy given to John in revelation.

Lo from Waco, TX

Lo called to say that she just found out her male friend she is dating  is homosexual. So she asked Bob, “What should I do with him? ” Stop  dating him. He has bought a lie of Satan and fallen under the trap of Satan.

Romans 1:27-29
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the  knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they  do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind  of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder,  strife, deceit and malice.

According to Romans, he has chosen not to retain the knowledge of God  and so God has turned him over to his own lusts. He decided not to  retain the knowledge of God that he is not a male and chose perverted  thinking. You might as well face the reality of that and whatever  relationship you had with him, and you must stop.

Now earlier in the conversation she had heard this about him from  another friend. So Bob also thought it wise, or to be fair to him, to  ask him directly if he truly is homosexual for you heard that he was  from someone else. You ask him the question directly and do not just  accept what the other person said. And when he asks, “Who told you?”,  then you can tell him who did and then proceed to tell him that you must  stop the relationship immediately.

Bill from Langley, British Columbia

Bill stated that he was raised in Armenian / Wesleyan doctrine. When he  was saved, he said his sins were forgiven then and not at any other  time. Bill asked Bob, “Does that make me not a Christian according to  your belief?” Of course not. Well, first, forget about my belief. People  may say, kind of wish-washy, “Well, it is really what you believe?” No  it isn’t. Everyone is believing something but are they believing in  truth? I am not saved because I believe something but because I put my  faith in what the bible says is true. Put faith in what bible does not  say or add to the bible or put it in error then I am going to be lost.  Even though sins forgiven 2000 years ago, that is a fact, and is not up  for grabs or to just be talking about as just a fact. One must  understand why Jesus died, why he was buried, and why he rose again, and  for you personally. What did he do that, by believing, accomplished new  spiritual life in you?

2 Corinthians 5:18-19
18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and  gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the  world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them.

When is that applicable to your life? Sins were forgiven, when that  becomes real, that is when becomes real to you. That was whatever day  was you were born again. Not born again by getting sins forgiven. You  were born again by coming to receive the resurrected life of Jesus. You  are saved by his life. Forgiveness was a preamble to what saves you. You  could not have eternal life without the eternal consequence of the  cross. The eternal consequence of the cross does not give you eternal  life. The resurrection gives you eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:3-22
3 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been  raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless  and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false  witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised  Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are  not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been  raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is  futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen  asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in  Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the first-fruits of  those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the  resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all  die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Without the resurrection we would be the most pitied of men and still be  spiritually dead in sin. Forgiveness provided then only received in his  resurrection. Come to Christ for his life.

Ephesians 1:7
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

So that is where it is received, in Him, in his resurrection. What he provided then was provided for the whole world.

Bill seemed to lack confidence with the truth, somewhat contemplating  about what if believed something else, and seemed that the pull of  denominational teaching was getting him sidetracked in his thinking. If  you are believing the truth, then why believe something else. Do not  hang onto Wesleyan or Armenian or Presbyterian or Lutheran, or whatever doctrine. Now whoever taught you truth may have come out of that seminary, but the Spirit revealed to you truth from the bible and you  received it as truth.

Then Bill relayed an example of false teaching he had heard when he said  he had learned something about the tenth as redeeming, referring to the  tithe. Bob responded that is not true. Tithing is under the Old  Covenant. On this side of the cross, there is no mention of tithing and  the reason it is not mentioned is because tithing is to support the  Levitical priesthood. Bob referred Bill to study the book of Hebrews,  here all this is explained quite thoroughly.

Hebrews 7:12
For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.

People who say you will succeed financially because of tithing are  deceiving you. That is teaching godliness as a means to financial gain.  That is teaching from a man whose mind is deceived, one of perverted mind.

1 Timothy 6:2-5
These are the things you are to teach and insist on. 3 If anyone teaches  otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus  Christ and to godly teaching, 4 they are conceited and understand  nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels  about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions  5 and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been  robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial  gain.

So many in Dallas,TX broke buying into that mindset of tithing, robbing  people for financial gain under the pretense of godliness. Tithing is  not there to benefit us. It never was. Tithing was to support the  Levitical priesthood, one of the twelve tribes of Israel.  We are not  under that Levitical priesthood, and as a Gentile we never were. Christ  Jesus is our high priest.  Nothing in the new covenant even mentions  anything about tithing. There are two chapters in Corinthians that  provide instruction on giving, and one on the attitude of giving.

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not  reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Michelle from Santa Rosa, CA

Michelle struggled in understanding what righteousness is, so she called  Bob to help her understanding. She asked, “Since righteousness is life,  and the debt is paid, and the righteousness under law does not give  life, then what is righteousness?”

Righteousness is right standing with God. Christ is a living God. We do  not have any righteousness of our own. We were born dead spiritually.  Righteousness comes from God. He is our righteousness. We do not have  any righteousness of our won. He, living in you, is the reason you are  alive spiritually and the reason you have right standing before God.  That is why in His righteousness we can go boldly go to the throne of  grace and call him “Abba Father”.

Hebrews 4:16
Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Galatians 4:6
Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”

That is why you have a relationship with God. To have the means to  relate to God is when you are made alive. Jesus, who is alive, raised  from the dead, came to take residence in your spirit and the moment that  took place, you are born again.

She then asked about a passage in 1 John 1:9 about continually cleansing from all unrighteousness.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Bob addresses this particular passage more thoroughly at other times.  But Bob told her that this work that Jesus is doing in you continually,  the renewing of the mind, this sanctifying work since the time you  believed, is a work he does and has nothing to with what we do. There is  really nothing we are involved in here.

Jesus took the sins of the entire world so they will never be seen again in the eyes of God.

Romans 8:1-3
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ  Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives  life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the  law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by  sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin  offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh.

The law of the Spirit of life sets us free from the law of sin and  death. Bob encouraged her to look up all passages of scriptures for  righteousness. as You read, ask the Holy Spirit to teach you, and He  will. Truth is revealed to you by the Spirit.

Michelle then asked, “Are righteousness and life interchangeable?” No,  they are not interchangeable but you cannot have one without the other.  When you have the life of Christ, the you have His righteousness and  everything else. You have everything in Christ. Righteousness,  redemption, holiness, everything we possess comes from Christ.

There are many scriptures on righteousness. Here is just a sampling. Ask  the Spirit to teach all that he has freely given you. When Christ looks  at you, he sees the righteousness of Christ.

Romans 5:17
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one  man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of  grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one  man, Jesus Christ!

Romans 8:10
But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness.

Romans 10:4
Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

1 Corinthians 1:30
It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us  wisdom from God — that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.

Philippians 1:11
filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ—to the glory and praise of God.

Philippians 3:9
and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes  from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the  righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith.

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